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Re: resolution supporting navsubstree change proposal

From: Steven Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:57:03 +0000
Message-ID: <55687cf81003160157q744cdfffy55330f1a540cc7b4@mail.gmail.com>
To: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Michael Smith <mike@w3.org>, public-html-a11y@w3.org
hi maciej,

my understanding is that in the navsubtree proposal the default state is for
the canvas content to be navigable, as it is in the spec currently.

>Looking back at the thread, I also don't see where Ian, Silvia or Tantek's
concerns were addressed, but I guess they can speak for themselves.
yes i think they can, but if you could provide specific references to which
concerns were not addressed, it would be much easier to address them. My
understanding is that the navsubtree proposal is an update in response
to identifiable concerns raised. after going and skimming the thread there
appears to be lots of attempts to answer other peoples concerns.

Likewise it would be useful to have a rationale for the current focus
management spec text, as this defines pretty much the same default behaviour
as the navsubtree text, but does not provide a method to indicate that the
canvas content MUST not be included in navigation when the accessible
content is provided outside of the canvas element.


>I also do not know where to find a link to the Change Proposal. The only
link I can find is this, which is not a proper Change Proposal (among other
things it >lacks rationale): <
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/att-0014/canvaselement-issue74-feedback1.html>.
Is there a version available >that includes rationale? Perhaps that would
answer my question.

I have been tasked with writing the proposal based on the link you site
above which is the modifications to the current, I will have it done this
week.

regards
Stevef
On 16 March 2010 08:22, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com> wrote:

>
> On Mar 16, 2010, at 1:16 AM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
>
>
>> On Mar 15, 2010, at 9:32 PM, Michael(tm) Smith wrote:
>>
>> During last Thursday's a11y task-force telcon, we made the
>>> following resolution and agreed to announce it on this mailing
>>> list and to give an opportunity to any members of the task force
>>> who not on the telcon to express any disagreements they might have
>>> with the resolution.
>>>
>>> RESOLUTION: The a11y TF resolves that the canvas navsubtree
>>> proposal is ready for wider review by the HTML WG, with the
>>> understanding that the a11y TF supports it and that related
>>> proposals needed to fully resolve the issue are still under
>>> discussion and will be brought to the HTML WG later.
>>>
>>> If you have any comments on that resolution, please send them by
>>> e-mail to this list prior to the a11y task-force telcon this
>>> Thursday.
>>>
>>
>> I'd still like an answer to my question about the earlier version of this
>> proposal (where it was called "adom"):
>>
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Feb/0507.html
>>
>> I asked this on Feb 23, and I never got a response, nor do I recall this
>> question being answered in the course of the discussions at that time.
>>
>
> Looking back at the thread, I also don't see where Ian, Silvia or Tantek's
> concerns were addressed, but I guess they can speak for themselves.
>
> I also do not know where to find a link to the Change Proposal. The only
> link I can find is this, which is not a proper Change Proposal (among other
> things it lacks rationale): <
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/att-0014/canvaselement-issue74-feedback1.html>.
> Is there a version available that includes rationale? Perhaps that would
> answer my question.
>
> Regards,
> Maciej
>
>
>


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