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Re: ToolTips are a Technique & have no place in HTML5 [was Re: [Bug 9589]]

From: Steven Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:38:04 +0100
Message-ID: <j2u55687cf81004260638yc4681fd3ncd4efb356740a85c@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>
Cc: public-html-a11y@w3.org
hi gregory,

I agree,

it would be helpful if you are quoting out of context to provide a
link to where this was said

in the same discussion I also said in reference to title attribute
display on images:

"Captions should be displayed by default and be styleable and able to
have semantics added, they
should not be limited to a text string. We have a chance to do better than that
in HTML5, lets not fetter the provision of captions to a broken attribute."


On 26 April 2010 14:12, Gregory J. Rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net> wrote:
> Steve wrote:
> quote
> For any focusable elements, I would suggest that the tootlip appears on
> focus after a brief delay, windows OS does this (for example on t
> the 'start' menu)
> unquote
> ToolTip exposition is a technique ONLY -- title text can as easily be
> rendered in the status bar or other reviewable screen area -- @title
> does NOT equal ToolTIp...  ToolTips are NOT part of -- nor should they
> be -- part of a markup specification; they should be but ONE of many
> exposition strategies used to present "discoverable metadata"
> this is a SERIOUS disconnect which i have attempted to challange within
> the TF -- ToolTips are an implementation decision, NOT something to be
> mandated by a technical recommendation, full stop.
> gregory.
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with regards

Steve Faulkner
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Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium

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