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Re: FW: CHANGE PROPOSAL: Table Summary

From: Joshue O Connor <joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie>
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:16:24 +0000
Message-ID: <4B20CA78.9000503@cfit.ie>
To: John Foliot <jfoliot@stanford.edu>
CC: 'Cynthia Shelly' <cyns@microsoft.com>, 'Ian Hickson' <ian@hixie.ch>, 'HTML Accessibility Task Force' <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
John Foliot wrote:
> Cynthia Shelly wrote:
>>
>> <cyns>
>> This says to show it by default *in authoring scenarios*.  For a current
>> browser, that would generally mean on things that are content-editable.
>> For a visual authoring tool, it would render in the editing/design
>> surface, but not in previews.  I'd like to get general agreement here
>> that this is a good idea, and then I'll happily take it to the IE team
>> and various authoring tools teams.  It sounds like you think it's a good
>> idea.  Is that correct?  Anyone else?  Anyone hate it?
>> </cyns>
> 
> I believe it is both a good idea, and an idea that has been floating
> around in various forms, suggested by various folks, including both myself
> and as I recall Matt May.  It would be even *better* if the browsers/UI
> allowed the end user to toggle 'display' on or off as determined by any
> given user.  Previously I had suggested a 'right-click' kind of
> functionality (knowing full well that this is a windows-centric
> suggestion, but a similar type of functionality could be achieved in all
> of the major OSes)

Sorry, I didn't comment in the previous mail. Yes, this is not a bad
idea. If it is relatively trivial for vendors to implement this kind of
thing in their browsers,

>> What if we got rid of the validation warning, positioned <details> and
>> @summary as mechanisms for including non-visible text, and then
>> discussed the value of including visible text, and situations where
>> authors might not be able to?  This seems like something we could all
>> live with, which is all that's needed for consensus.
>> </cyns>
> 
> +1

Yes, why not. I could certainly live with that.

Cheers

Josh
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