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Re: ISSUE-23: How to relate a person to a building/room? [People]

From: Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 07:46:15 +0000
Cc: Government Linked Data Working Group WG <public-gld-wg@w3.org>
Message-Id: <38A16F03-43E1-4D84-A416-9F48AF0DEC38@deri.org>
To: Stasinos Konstantopoulos <konstant@iit.demokritos.gr>

Stasinos,

> If the intended usage is one of describing organizational structure,
> the Org ontology (or whatever we end up using to represent
> organizations) should be adequate, as arbitrarily small
> OrganizationUnitS can have individual hasSite properties, which can be
> arbitrarily fine-grained, down to a desk in an office in a building at
> an address somewhere on the planet. Again, it's a matter of allowing a
> fine enough address schema.


I'm not disagreeing here, but we're in the spec writing business and  
not having an academic discussion.


Can you please provide me with a Turtle snippet in ORG + vCard that  
does the same as:

[[
@prefix rooms: <http://vocab.deri.ie/rooms#> .
@prefix : <>. <http://colcids.com/person/42> a foaf:Person .
  :CCHQ a rooms:Building ;
  rooms:contains :r101 .

  :r101 a rooms:Room ;
  rooms:occupant <http://colcids.com/person/42> .
]]


Cheers,
	Michael
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On 30 Jan 2012, at 07:26, Stasinos Konstantopoulos wrote:

> Still, it seems to me that this is not a separate issue.
>
> If the intended usage is one of finding out how to reach people, it is
> a matter of defining/choosing a contact information schema that is
> detailed enough to achieve this.
>
> If the intended usage is one of describing organizational structure,
> the Org ontology (or whatever we end up using to represent
> organizations) should be adequate, as arbitrarily small
> OrganizationUnitS can have individual hasSite properties, which can be
> arbitrarily fine-grained, down to a desk in an office in a building at
> an address somewhere on the planet. Again, it's a matter of allowing a
> fine enough address schema.
>
> s
>
>
> On 30 January 2012 09:07, Michael Hausenblas
> <michael.hausenblas@deri.org> wrote:
>>
>> Stasinos,
>>
>> Thanks for your question.
>>
>>
>>> What is the use case for this?
>>
>>
>>
>> For example, we use it in http://lab.linkeddata.deri.ie/2010/deri-rooms 
>>  ...
>>
>>
>>> I mean, how is this different from
>>> representing contact information for a person (ISSUE 24)?
>>
>>
>>
>> See [1] - in a sense an extension of contact information with  
>> potentially
>> finer granular descriptions than an address.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>        Michael
>>
>> [1]
>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/people/ 
>> index.html#relating-a-person-to-a-building-or-room
>> --
>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow
>> LiDRC - Linked Data Research Centre
>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
>> Ireland, Europe
>> Tel. +353 91 495730
>> http://linkeddata.deri.ie/
>> http://sw-app.org/about.html
>>
>> On 30 Jan 2012, at 07:02, Stasinos Konstantopoulos wrote:
>>
>>> Michael, all,
>>>
>>> What is the use case for this? I mean, how is this different from
>>> representing contact information for a person (ISSUE 24)?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Stasinos
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29 January 2012 13:07, Government Linked Data Working Group Issue
>>> Tracker <sysbot+tracker@w3.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ISSUE-23: How to relate a person to a building/room? [People]
>>>>
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/23
>>>>
>>>> Raised by: Michael Hausenblas
>>>> On product: People
>>>>
>>>> There are really two issues here, namely how to represent  
>>>> buildings and
>>>> rooms  and how to relate a person to the building/room. It seems  
>>>> that the
>>>> Buildings and Rooms Vocabulary [1] would in fact be capable to do  
>>>> this,
>>>> however the namespace is sub-optimal, in terms of stability.
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://vocab.deri.ie/rooms#
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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