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Re: Deprecating DOMFocusIn/DOMFocusOut

From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:22:38 -0400
Message-ID: <4A68560E.1020604@w3.org>
To: "www-dom@w3.org" <www-dom@w3.org>
CC: public-forms@w3.org
Hi, Maciej-

Maciej Stachowiak wrote (on 7/23/09 7:52 AM):
>
>>>> Your employer expressed a different opinion on yesterday's telcon,
>>>> as have many other people.
>>>
>>> Charles and I indeed do not always agree. I'm sure the same happens
>>> in other companies.
>>
>> Yes, but when I get conflicting messages from you and Chaals, I'm
>> going to pick the one who has more authority to make decisions (in
>> particular, implementation decisions) at Opera. That seems to be Chaals.
>
> I'm uncomfortable with this line of reasoning.

If that were my only line of reasoning, I would tend to agree, but 
you're taking my statement out of the context of the entire conversation 
with Anne.  He's made several statements that indicate he isn't 
following the emails on this list (including ones from you), and isn't 
adding any information to the task of deciding how to deal with the 
problem of legacy events.  By contrast, Chaals attended the telcon, and 
made reasoned arguments there and on the mailing list, as well as 
adopting what strikes me as a pragmatic position.  That's the context.

I disagree that deprecation is not useful, and I stated a rational 
argument why.  In response, Anne has simply stated that in so many 
words, that he doesn't like it, without stating or pointing to actual 
arguments against deprecation.

My tone was indeed dismissive, because I don't think Anne is making a 
serious effort to contribute to this thread, which I find frustrating, 
because it's using time I could be spending researching or working on 
the spec.  Maybe I should simply STFU and ignore him?

And with that, that's as much time as I'm going to spend on this 
meta-argument.  I'm fine with deprecating the events, but I don't think 
it's helpful to remove them from the spec.  It would go counter to one 
of the goals that the group set out with (documenting existing 
behavior), and would actually introduce problems for SVG, XForms, and 
probably other specs and implementations.

Regards-
-Doug Schepers
W3C Team Contact, SVG and WebApps WGs
Received on Thursday, 23 July 2009 12:22:49 UTC

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