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Re: Mapping SKOS into BFO

From: Jim McCusker <james.mccusker@yale.edu>
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 10:09:46 -0400
Message-ID: <BANLkTikGVJ_ZshNiApRsqVM08CZGv7e5SA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Alistair Miles <alimanfoo@googlemail.com>
Cc: public-esw-thes@w3.org
Has a consensus emerged? There hasn't been much discussion on this in
a week. cmo:represents and cmo:representedBy attempt to address the
issues that were raised in those mails, with the additional benefit of
having been vetted from the BFO/realist perspective as well.

Thanks,
Jim

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:17 AM, Alistair Miles
<alimanfoo@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I definitely don't get all the nuances here, but I thought I'd flag up a
> possible connection here between CMO, the discussion on this list in August
> last year about the proposed foaf:focus property (see thread from [1]), and
> older discussions from 2005 (see thread from [2]) about skos:it/skos:as.
>
> Could cmo:represents and cmo:representedBy be the properties we're looking for?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alistair
>
> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-esw-thes/2010Aug/0002.html
> [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-esw-thes/2005Jun/0002.html
>
> On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 12:30:05PM -0400, Jim McCusker wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Could you map out a quick example within BFO where lytic vacuole and
>> > vacuole would play out, so that I could see a skos:Concept , a
>> > bfo:Entity , and a snap:GenericallyDependentContinuent coordinated
>> > with a snap:DependentContinuent ?
>>
>> Sure, that is actually a big part of what CMO attempts to address. The
>> submitted paper (not proceedings, but accepted to ICBO) is available
>> at http://tw.rpi.edu/web/doc/towardscmo. This example would look like
>> the following, using OWL 2.
>>
>> If the classes vacoule and lytic_vacoule are universals:
>>
>> lytic_vacoule_concept a skos:Concept;
>>     cmo:represents lytic_vacoule.
>>     skos:broader vacoule_concept.
>> lytic_vacoule a owl:Class, cmo:UniversalClass;
>>     owl:subclassOf vacoule.
>> vacoule a owl:Class, cmo:UniversalClass;
>> vacoule_concept a skos:Concept;
>>     cmo:represents vacoule.
>>
>> If the classes vacoule and lytic_vacoule are not universals, they can
>> be expressed like this:
>>
>> lytic_vacoule a skos:Concept, owl:Class;
>>     cmo:represents lytic_vacoule.
>>     skos:broader vacoule.
>>     owl:subclassOf vacoule.
>> vacoule a owl:Class, skos:Concept;
>>
>> In each case, the idea of the vacoule is the concept, while the class
>> of vacoule is the thing in the world that the concept represents. In
>> non-realist representations, the classes and concepts can be the same,
>> while in realist representations they can remain distinguished.
>>
>> Jim
>> --
>> Jim McCusker
>> Programmer Analyst
>> Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics
>> Yale School of Medicine
>> james.mccusker@yale.edu | (203) 785-6330
>> http://krauthammerlab.med.yale.edu
>>
>> PhD Student
>> Tetherless World Constellation
>> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
>> mccusj@cs.rpi.edu
>> http://tw.rpi.edu
>>
>
> --
> Alistair Miles
> Head of Epidemiological Informatics
> Centre for Genomics and Global Health <http://cggh.org>
> The Wellcome Trust Centre for Human Genetics
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>
>



-- 
Jim McCusker
Programmer Analyst
Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics
Yale School of Medicine
james.mccusker@yale.edu | (203) 785-6330
http://krauthammerlab.med.yale.edu

PhD Student
Tetherless World Constellation
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
mccusj@cs.rpi.edu
http://tw.rpi.edu
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