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[SKOS] telling the skos:Concept story (was RE: [SKOS] Amsterdam topic "Concept semantics")

From: Miles, AJ \(Alistair\) <A.J.Miles@rl.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 11:08:33 +0100
Message-ID: <677CE4DD24B12C4B9FA138534E29FB1D0363B81C@exchange11.fed.cclrc.ac.uk>
To: "Antoine Isaac" <aisaac@few.vu.nl>, "SWD WG" <public-swd-wg@w3.org>
Cc: <public-esw-thes@w3.org>

As related point, you may notice that in [2] and [3] I talk about the notion of a "SKOS Conceptual Resource". 

I think that, if we talk about the notion of a "SKOS Conceptual Resource", rather than simply talking about the notion of a "concept" or even "SKOS concept", then we stand a better chance of telling a good story and avoiding some confusion.

The problem with "concept" is that it is such a vague term, and already means different things to different people. If we instead say "SKOS Conceptual Resource" then we at least give ourselves and other people some precise terminology to use when discussing what this thing is, what it means (or doesn't mean), and how to use it in software. 

However, I don't want this idea to distract us from the formal semantics of skos:Concept, which is the main focus of the "Concept Semantics" topic at the f2f next week.

Cheers,

Alistair.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-swd-wg-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:public-swd-wg-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Miles, AJ 
> (Alistair)
> Sent: 05 October 2007 10:51
> To: Antoine Isaac; SWD WG
> Cc: public-esw-thes@w3.org
> Subject: RE: [SKOS] Amsterdam topic "Concept semantics"
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Sorry this is too late for the reading packet, hopefully not 
> too late to be of use at the f2f...
> 
> As input for discussion of this topic, I've written a 
> strawman proposal for the semantics of skos:Concept...
> 
> [2] 
> <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/ConceptSemantic
> s/MinimalProposal?action=recall&rev=3>
> 
> This proposal is very minimal, and makes almost no 
> ontological commitment for skos:Concept. 
> 
> The motivation for a minimal semantics is to allow different 
> design patterns to be used for working with SKOS and OWL.
> 
> I wrote a short document on what I think are the major 
> patterns for working with SKOS and OWL, and how these 
> patterns might influence our choice of semantics for skos:Concept...
> 
> [3] <http://purl.org/net/skos/2007/10/f2f/skos-owl-patterns.html>
> 
> ...this was really just a brain dump, and should hopefully 
> complement Antoine's excellent discussion at [1].
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Alistair.
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: public-swd-wg-request@w3.org
> > [mailto:public-swd-wg-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Antoine Isaac
> > Sent: 25 September 2007 22:28
> > To: SWD WG
> > Subject: Re: [SKOS] Amsterdam topic "Concept semantics"
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I've put on [1] a digest on different problems and 
> solutions related 
> > to the concept semantic issue. As there was not much material 
> > available, and many related mails on SWD and SKOS lists, I tried to 
> > produce one emcompassing document, normalizing a bit what was 
> > mentioned in the informal discussions.
> > 
> > The idea is to make it the only required reading for the 
> F2F meeting 
> > on the topic (even the references are just there just for authority 
> > reasons, the reader can in principle skip them) I hope it 
> is usable as 
> > such. I would welcome one or two persons of the WG having a 
> small look 
> > at it during the next
> > week: this would allow me to produce a new document in time for the 
> > F2F!
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Antoine
> > 
> > [1] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/ConceptSemantics
> > > This week's agenda includes an excerpt from the Amsterdam
> > agenda for
> > > the topic
> > >
> > >     Concept semantics (discussion leader: Antoine)
> > >
> > > I suggest we try to make some headway on this week's call 
> about the 
> > > scope and reading list for this topic.
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >   
> > >> Amsterdam topic "Concept Semantics" (Antoine)
> > >> --
> > >> 
> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#ConceptSemantics
> > >>
> > >> Relevant issue: [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/54
> > >> '''Issue-54 ConceptSemantics''' (open)]
> > >> -- Required reading? Proposed solution...?  Possible
> > problems to discuss:
> > >>    * Defining the semantics of skos:Concept
> > >>    * Mixing with OWL concepts
> > >>     
> > >
> > >   
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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