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RE: Quick Guide to Publishing a Thesaurus on the Semantic Web

From: Carl Mattocks <carlmattocks@checkmi.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 13:43:16 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <1939.68.37.145.1.1109529796.squirrel@webmail.netcarrier.com>
To: "Stella Dextre Clarke" <sdclarke@lukehouse.demon.co.uk>
Cc: "'Miles, AJ \(Alistair\)'" <a.j.miles@rl.ac.uk>, "'Mark van Assem'" <mark@cs.vu.nl>, "'Thomas Baker'" <thomas.baker@bi.fhg.de>, "'Leonard Will'" <l.will@willpowerinfo.co.uk>, public-esw-thes@w3.org


Hi stella :

I would be interested i viewing  drafts of Parts 1, 2 and 4 of BS8723

regards

carl

<quote who="Stella Dextre Clarke">
>
> Just a word of general support for this approach. I agree with the
> reservations that have been expressed about the need for a "modelling
> commitment" (btw, not exactly sure what that means, but hopefully the
> idea is to get the data model right) first, before expressing this in
> xml format.
>
> I interpret Leonard's point as a bit of scepticism about whether this is
> useful, before we can see any applications that stand a chance of using
> it appropriately. But this is a chicken-and-egg argument - many links
> are needed in the chain that conveys information from its source to its
> ultimate users, and if no work commenced on any of the links before the
> others were in place, we'd never get anywhere. (And by the way, I'm
> sceptical about the Semantic Web too!) To achieve progress, sometimes we
> have to be able to demonstrate ahead-of-their-time methods just to
> stimulate the imaginations of the people who will turn them into real
> useful projects.
>
> Returning to the question of xml formats, while progress on BS8723
> continues to be wretchedly slow (mea culpa - just too busy with the day
> job) I hope that eventually it will include recommendations on both the
> appropriate data model(s) and on expressing these in xml format. And the
> SKOS thinking will hopefully feed into this. If anyone on this list
> would like to comment on drafts of Parts 1, 2 and 4 of BS8723 and has
> not already seen them, please let me know.
>
> Stella
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org
> [mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Miles, AJ
> (Alistair)
> Sent: 25 February 2005 18:23
> To: Mark van Assem; Thomas Baker
> Cc: public-esw-thes@w3.org
> Subject: RE: Quick Guide to Publishing a Thesaurus on the Semantic Web
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Tom wrote:
>> > However, I think we should avoid giving the impression
>> > that this is anything similar to or as automatic as a file-format
>> > conversion.  Lots of people think of XML and
>>  > RDF not as different models, but as different file formats,  > so I
>
>> can easily picture someone thinking they could select  > "File -> Save
>
>> As: SKOS".
>>
>
> Anyone fancy drafting a nice easy paragraph that explains this to go in
> the Quick Guide ? :)  I'm thinking we need to be able to express the
> basic modelling commitments that have to be made to support a stable,
> persistent and useful SKOS/RDF publication of a concept scheme.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Al.
>
>
>
>
> ---
> Alistair Miles
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> Email:        a.j.miles@rl.ac.uk
> Tel: +44 (0)1235 445440
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark van Assem [mailto:mark@cs.vu.nl]
>> Sent: 25 February 2005 16:06
>> To: Thomas Baker
>> Cc: Miles, AJ (Alistair); public-esw-thes@w3.org
>> Subject: Re: Quick Guide to Publishing a Thesaurus on the Semantic Web
>>
>>
>> Hi Thomas,
>>
>> Mark.
>>
>> --
>>   Mark F.J. van Assem - Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
>>         mark@cs.vu.nl - http://www.cs.vu.nl/~mark
>>
>>
>
>
>


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