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RE: [Proposal][SKOS-Core] skos:denotes

From: Miles, AJ (Alistair) <A.J.Miles@rl.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:39:36 +0100
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To: "'public-esw-thes@w3.org'" <public-esw-thes@w3.org>

How about 'skos:bespeaks' ... ? Kidding ;)

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Alistair Miles
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org
> [mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Miles, AJ 
> (Alistair)
> 
> Sent: 29 September 2004 15:38
> To: 'Kal Ahmed'; Miles, AJ (Alistair) 
> Cc: 'public-esw-thes@w3.org'
> Subject: RE: [Proposal][SKOS-Core] skos:denotes
> 
> 
> 
> To help clear things up ...
> 
> This property (whatever we end up calling it) is intended to 
> be a bridge
> between thesaurus style descriptions of things and ontology style
> descriptions of things.  Others (Danbri help me out here) 
> will be able to
> give better examples than me, but here is one example:
> 
> my:conceptA		a	skos:Concept;
> 	skos:prefLabel	'Alistair Miles';
> 	skos:denotes	[	a	foaf:Person;
> 						foaf:mbox
> <mailto:a.j.miles@rl.ac.uk>	].
> 
> It has also been suggested to have further properties like
> 'skos:denotesClass' and 'skos:denotesIndividual' ... what do 
> folks think
> about that?
> 
> On the subject of whether 'denotes' is the right name for 
> this property ...
> the Cambridge Advanced Learners Dictionary [1] has 'denotes' df. 'to
> represent something.'  The third definition from 
> dictionary.com [2] has
> 'denotes' df. 'To signify directly; refer to specifically.'  
> 
> So in these senses, I think we have 'skos:denotes' the right 
> way round,
> although I agree it doesn't seem quite perfect.  All 
> suggestions welcomed.  
> 
> Al.
> 
> [1] http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=20729&dict=CALD
> [2] http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=denotes
> 
> ---
> Alistair Miles
> Research Associate
> CCLRC - Rutherford Appleton Laboratory
> Building R1 Room 1.60
> Fermi Avenue
> Chilton
> Didcot
> Oxfordshire OX11 0QX
> United Kingdom
> Email:        a.j.miles@rl.ac.uk
> Tel: +44 (0)1235 445440
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org
> > [mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Kal Ahmed
> > Sent: 29 September 2004 15:21
> > To: Miles, AJ (Alistair) 
> > Cc: 'public-esw-thes@w3.org'
> > Subject: Re: [Proposal][SKOS-Core] skos:denotes
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Al,
> > 
> > Either I misunderstand the definition or else I think your 
> > property name 
> > should be skos:denoted-by as it is the resource that denotes the 
> > concept....hmmm...I just checked 
> > http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=denotes and I am 
> > assuming you 
> > are using "denotes" in the sense of definition (3). Is that right ?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Kal
> > 
> > Miles, AJ (Alistair) wrote:
> > 
> > >Hi all,
> > >
> > >This is a proposal for a new property for SKOS Core:
> > >
> > >skos:denotes	a	rdf:Property;
> > >				a	owl:FunctionalProperty;
> > >				rdfs:domain		skos:Concept;
> > >				rdfs:range		rdf:Resource;
> > >				vm:term_status	'unstable';
> > >				skos:definition	'The real world 
> > thing that
> > >this concept is an abstraction of.'
> > >
> > >Comments on this (and especially the definition) most welcome.
> > >
> > >Al.
> > >
> > >---
> > >Alistair Miles
> > >Research Associate
> > >CCLRC - Rutherford Appleton Laboratory
> > >Building R1 Room 1.60
> > >Fermi Avenue
> > >Chilton
> > >Didcot
> > >Oxfordshire OX11 0QX
> > >United Kingdom
> > >Email:        a.j.miles@rl.ac.uk
> > >Tel: +44 (0)1235 445440
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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