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RE: [Proposal][SKOS-Core] skos:denotes

From: Miles, AJ (Alistair) <A.J.Miles@rl.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:45:00 +0100
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To: "'public-esw-thes@w3.org'" <public-esw-thes@w3.org>

... or 'skos:intends' ... ? (Serious suggestion).

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Alistair Miles
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CCLRC - Rutherford Appleton Laboratory
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org
> [mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Miles, AJ 
> (Alistair)
> 
> Sent: 29 September 2004 15:40
> To: 'public-esw-thes@w3.org'
> Subject: RE: [Proposal][SKOS-Core] skos:denotes
> 
> 
> 
> How about 'skos:bespeaks' ... ? Kidding ;)
> 
> ---
> Alistair Miles
> Research Associate
> CCLRC - Rutherford Appleton Laboratory
> Building R1 Room 1.60
> Fermi Avenue
> Chilton
> Didcot
> Oxfordshire OX11 0QX
> United Kingdom
> Email:        a.j.miles@rl.ac.uk
> Tel: +44 (0)1235 445440
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org
> > [mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Miles, AJ 
> > (Alistair)
> > 
> > Sent: 29 September 2004 15:38
> > To: 'Kal Ahmed'; Miles, AJ (Alistair) 
> > Cc: 'public-esw-thes@w3.org'
> > Subject: RE: [Proposal][SKOS-Core] skos:denotes
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > To help clear things up ...
> > 
> > This property (whatever we end up calling it) is intended to 
> > be a bridge
> > between thesaurus style descriptions of things and ontology style
> > descriptions of things.  Others (Danbri help me out here) 
> > will be able to
> > give better examples than me, but here is one example:
> > 
> > my:conceptA		a	skos:Concept;
> > 	skos:prefLabel	'Alistair Miles';
> > 	skos:denotes	[	a	foaf:Person;
> > 						foaf:mbox
> > <mailto:a.j.miles@rl.ac.uk>	].
> > 
> > It has also been suggested to have further properties like
> > 'skos:denotesClass' and 'skos:denotesIndividual' ... what do 
> > folks think
> > about that?
> > 
> > On the subject of whether 'denotes' is the right name for 
> > this property ...
> > the Cambridge Advanced Learners Dictionary [1] has 'denotes' df. 'to
> > represent something.'  The third definition from 
> > dictionary.com [2] has
> > 'denotes' df. 'To signify directly; refer to specifically.'  
> > 
> > So in these senses, I think we have 'skos:denotes' the right 
> > way round,
> > although I agree it doesn't seem quite perfect.  All 
> > suggestions welcomed.  
> > 
> > Al.
> > 
> > [1] http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=20729&dict=CALD
> > [2] http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=denotes
> > 
> > ---
> > Alistair Miles
> > Research Associate
> > CCLRC - Rutherford Appleton Laboratory
> > Building R1 Room 1.60
> > Fermi Avenue
> > Chilton
> > Didcot
> > Oxfordshire OX11 0QX
> > United Kingdom
> > Email:        a.j.miles@rl.ac.uk
> > Tel: +44 (0)1235 445440
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: public-esw-thes-request@w3.org
> > > [mailto:public-esw-thes-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Kal Ahmed
> > > Sent: 29 September 2004 15:21
> > > To: Miles, AJ (Alistair) 
> > > Cc: 'public-esw-thes@w3.org'
> > > Subject: Re: [Proposal][SKOS-Core] skos:denotes
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Al,
> > > 
> > > Either I misunderstand the definition or else I think your 
> > > property name 
> > > should be skos:denoted-by as it is the resource that denotes the 
> > > concept....hmmm...I just checked 
> > > http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=denotes and I am 
> > > assuming you 
> > > are using "denotes" in the sense of definition (3). Is 
> that right ?
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > 
> > > Kal
> > > 
> > > Miles, AJ (Alistair) wrote:
> > > 
> > > >Hi all,
> > > >
> > > >This is a proposal for a new property for SKOS Core:
> > > >
> > > >skos:denotes	a	rdf:Property;
> > > >				a	owl:FunctionalProperty;
> > > >				rdfs:domain		skos:Concept;
> > > >				rdfs:range		rdf:Resource;
> > > >				vm:term_status	'unstable';
> > > >				skos:definition	'The real world 
> > > thing that
> > > >this concept is an abstraction of.'
> > > >
> > > >Comments on this (and especially the definition) most welcome.
> > > >
> > > >Al.
> > > >
> > > >---
> > > >Alistair Miles
> > > >Research Associate
> > > >CCLRC - Rutherford Appleton Laboratory
> > > >Building R1 Room 1.60
> > > >Fermi Avenue
> > > >Chilton
> > > >Didcot
> > > >Oxfordshire OX11 0QX
> > > >United Kingdom
> > > >Email:        a.j.miles@rl.ac.uk
> > > >Tel: +44 (0)1235 445440
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
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