Re: Tools for eGovernance

Andre, and Owen

thank you very much for making the info available as StrathML and fo
putting ISTCS on such a strategic map.
 (I take it that the relevance to this thread is that some kind of xml such
as StrathML is also a tool for organising eGovernance knowledge - in case
someone is wondering why we are discussing this here)

Just a thought- as feedback for A

Could it be nice, each time the stathml elements that coincide with
corresponding fields (elements, sections) on the  website (the original URL
where the info in the strathml file comes from) , the strathml file
elsewhere could update itself.

Thank you very much
Let me know if I can help with this

PDM



On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Andre Cusson <acusson@01communications.com
> wrote:

>  Hi Owen, Everyone,
>
> The ISTCS and ISTCS2 StratML document have been converted to StratML Part2
> as well as added and rendered to respective Web sites (#1020+) on the
> StratML portal, at
> http://stratml.hyperbase.com/ISTCS.html
> http://stratml.hyperbase.com/ISTCS2.html
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>
> As usual, all StratML documents are also available for editing, in
> preloaded StratML Part2 forms, from the "Edit" link beside the
> corresponding entry in the alphabetical StratML document list at
> http://stratml.hyperbase.com/documents.html.
>
> The other StratML portal indexes have also been updated accordingly, as
> well as the stakeholders and statistics pages, respectively at
> http://stratml.hyperbase.com/stakeholders.html
> http://stratml.hyperbase.com/statistics.html
>
> Regards,
>
> Andre Cusson
> 514 583 0601
> 01 COMMUNICATIONS
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>  Paola, your plan for ISTCS is now available in the StratML collection at
> http://xml.gov/stratml/drybridge/index.htm#ISTCS or, more specifically,
> http://xml.gov/stratml/dimaio/ISTCS.xml &
> http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/ISTCS2wStyle.xml Please note that I made a
> few adjustments in the latter rendition of your plan.  Your goal<http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/ISTCS2wStyle.xml#_f173517a-2d8b-11e2-a125-b56f5b280d48>should be exciting to many people.
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> When Andre has imported your plan into his StratML portal<http://stratml.hyperbase.com/documents.html>,
> his form <http://www.hyperbase.com/xml/cosmos/resource/apps/stratedit.xml>can be used to flesh it out as a performance plan, with designated roles
> and performance indicators.  I trust that he will be happy to have folks
> like you use his portal to post their plans and reports.****
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> However, the vision of the StratML standard is:  *A worldwide web of
> intentions, stakeholders, and results* … meaning that folks should be
> free to post their plans and reports wherever they choose on the public
> Web.  Service providers should compete for the privilege not only to host
> StratML formatted plans and reports but also to make the information and
> data they contain readily usable and useful to stakeholders.  MarkLogic,
> for example, is redeveloping their StratML search service.
> http://xml.gov/stratml/index.htm#MarkLogic ****
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> BTW, while I was at it, I also converted ISTCS’s somewhat more formal
> about us statement, at http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/ISTCSwStyle.xml ****
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> Owen****
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> *From:* paoladimaio10@gmail.com [mailto:paoladimaio10@gmail.com<paoladimaio10@gmail.com>]
> *On Behalf Of *Paola Di Maio
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:10 AM
> *To:* eGov IG (Public)
> *Subject:* Fwd: Tools for eGovernance****
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
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> From: *Paola Di Maio* <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Tools for eGovernance
> To: Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>
>
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> Owen****
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> Paola, don’t get me started on the term “governance” … which all-too-often
> implies trying to gain the upper hand, politically speaking, to force **
> others** to do things, rather than focusing on that which we could and
> should do for ourselves, in partnership with those who share not only our
> values but also our objectives.****
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> Thank you for the reminder that this group is still not started taking
> steps (unless I missed it) toward creating a shared definition for
> egovernance (see previous emails). Not sure if the members of the group
> have been surveyed yet to see what definition would work for them etc. (but
> we had some exhcnages on this list to that effect) ****
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> BTW, it is good to see that you have documented a mission and personal
> goal at http://personal.strath.ac.uk/paola.dimaio/  Imagine what might be
> accomplished if multitudes of people were to document not only their
> longer-term goals but also their near-term objectives on the Web in an **open,
> standard, machine-readable format** like StratML.****
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> Thank yo for the prompt****
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>  I have gone to STRATHML creator and created a test file to start with-***
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> is there  a directory of strathml files I can load to>****
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> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5XeDqbLLqHSQWpDdnFfLUdkbWs/edit****
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> cheers****
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> PDM****
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>  Owen Ambur****
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> Co-Chair, AIIM StratML <http://xml.gov/stratml/index.htm> Committee****
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> Co-Chair Emeritus, xml.gov CoP****
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> Former Project Manager, ET.gov <http://et.gov/>****
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> *From:* Holm, Jeanne M (1760) [mailto:jeanne.m.holm@jpl.nasa.gov]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 12, 2012 6:30 AM
> *To:* Tim Davies; paoladimaio10@googlemail.com
> *Cc:* eGov IG (Public)****
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: Tools for eGovernance****
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> Paola and Tim--****
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> It is less about which tools can and could be used (there are many), than
> about the policies of the bodies which govern and convene the meetings.  My
> understanding is that the W3C has good reasons why they do not actually
> record or make recordable the verbal discussions and broadcasts from the
> meetings.  For this group, therefore, I abide by those rules.****
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> However, there could certainly be an interesting discussion on the list
> and in our meetings on how best to accomplish (or what ways we could
> accomplish) the easiest participation in such activities if policies were
> changed or for groups where the policies are different.****
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>  ****
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> --Jeanne****
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> Jeanne Holm
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> *From: *Tim Davies <tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk>
> *Date: *Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:18:10 +0000
> *To: *<paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>
> *Cc: *"eGov IG (Public)" <public-egov-ig@w3.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Tools for eGovernance
> *Resent-From: *<public-egov-ig@w3.org>
> *Resent-Date: *Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:18:59 +0000****
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> Just a quick pointer to an interesting Working Draft from the IETF on
> Remote Participation: ****
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> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-genarea-rps-reqs/?include_text=1
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> As IETF highlight, and as is mirrored by my experience last week trying to
> remote participate in the Internet Governance Forum, which has also worked
> hard to support remote panelists and participation, the right mix of tools
> and practices to support remote participation in face-to-face meetings, and
> effective cross-platform online-only meetings, currently still seem
> somewhat elusive. ****
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> There has been the suggestion in past Internet Governance Forum
> discussions on Remote Participation that it would be good to have a shared
> project between a number of conferences / fora which have a governance
> function to develop shared tools, principles and guidance for
> e-Participation in meetings - but as yet nothing has come of this. Perhaps
> it's something that could have connections to the eGov meeting.****
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> All the best****
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> Tim****
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> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
> wrote:****
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> just a quick household note ****
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> I may have asked this before, apologies for repetition****
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> I find it hard to understand why the calls are not broadcast using some
> webex type application****
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> ( anymeeting.com  is free and works well and there are others)****
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>  ****
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> While when I am based at the office I have free calls to most countries
> and can easily spend hours on the phone****
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> without breaking the budget for this effort however when I travel (which
> in the last few months has been a constant and it is likely to get worse)*
> ***
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> it's difficult, expensive and not always possible to get on the phone long
> distance.****
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> This means I cannot volunteer to scribe (I am sure it would be my turn at
> some point)****
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> I must say that I have the same observation for other similar events, for
> example I could not attend in person****
>
> yesterday the #sw2022 session at #iswc2012 ,  so sorry I am missing the
> opportunity to meet in person so many of you!!****
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>  ****
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> Slides****
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> http://www.slideshare.net/PaolaDIM/sw10-yearslides****
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> Voiceover****
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9bqBBJNIF4&list=UUcxJu04fCSkU9x1e7BwYYHQ&index=2&feature=plcp
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> I would have expected a virtual connection to present remotely and take
> part in the panel discussion remotely, but apparently this was not even
> contemplated by the organisers****
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> the bottom line is: how can we eGovern ourselves, without adopting the
> necessary eGovernance tools?****
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> This brings up another possible topic for discussion, 'Principles and
> Tools  for eGovernance' (sine qua non)****
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> I d love to present a topic or two, and to scribe, when the facilities are
> available****
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> In the meantime, keep it growing :-)****
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> Cheers****
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> PDM****
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