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Re: technical web standards for eGov

From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 20:25:47 +0100
Message-ID: <CAMXe=SoE5_Gyc+cNX8u2T0UuKv46+KwaaUD4WZGWzt9L1mdH0A@mail.gmail.com>
To: Brand Niemann <bniemann@cox.net>
Cc: Gannon Dick <gannon_dick@yahoo.com>, paoladimaio10@googlemail.com, "eGov IG (Public)" <public-egov-ig@w3.org>
Thank you Gannon and Brand


hadnt understood  I need to download d2r from github to make sense of
the ttl file

> I used the D2R Server because 1) It delivers Linked Data in a portable
> format, and 2) The web server is relatively easy to get working on a local machine.

ok-  but can D2R functionalities not be served as a web service?
(thats what i'd aim for)

Please consider writing some tutorials and how tos
for people to get on the same page on you with this data, and let me
know if I can help with foolproofing and promoting any outcomes.
Or even better, send some diagrams!!

I ll have a go though (feeling inadequate)

Cheers

P



On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Brand Niemann <bniemann@cox.net> wrote:
> I was a able to do something with Gannon’s data:
> http://semanticommunity.info/Gannon_Dick
>
>
>
> From: Gannon Dick [mailto:gannon_dick@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 12:02 PM
> To: paoladimaio10@googlemail.com; eGov IG (Public)
> Subject: Re: technical web standards for eGov
>
>
>
> XML (HTML, etc.) is human readable, but linked data is not "human
> comprehensible".  Visualizations provide some ideas, but it's an old story
> ... when you are looking at a marked-up document you are looking at a
> picture of text content, not the text itself.  DATA.GOV published a Drupal 6
> implementation some time ago on github.  There is a lot of terminology to
> cope with there too.
>
>
>





 You don't need to do any further development of the framework.
> The D2R Server software is available on github.  It is also possible, if you
> control the data base to extract data directly in a familiar outline/subject
> heading form.  If you don't know what the screen shots mean it is because
> trying to draw a picture of a hypercube looks strange under the best of
> circumstances.  "What the heck is that ?" is fine as long as you understand
> that "that" is something desirable to have when you are done.
>
>
>
> That said, eGov is a "vertical", a Public Utility, of the Top Level
> Domains.  No other formulation makes sense ... the risk is that at the
> bottom, governance breaks down.  At the bottom, linked data and the semantic
> web break down from the same cause, although it can not be said for the same
> reason.  Commercial domains are free to "fly-over" (exclude) customers from
> their markets.  Governments can not operate this way (excluding people) for
> very long.
>
>
>
> I'm sure I need more examples that look like familiar organization tables
> ... working on it :o)
>
>
>
> --Gannon
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
> To: eGov IG (Public) <public-egov-ig@w3.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 8:59 AM
> Subject: technical web standards for eGov
>
>
> Now, having Gannon send a file that the browser cannot open brings up
> another issue, which may be more general to SW.
>
> Should we, as a W3C IG  ensure that (at least one version of) data
> files and docs  re e-Gov shared via the web are  at a minimum,
> accessible via web based technologies (I know the browser, is there
> anything else that is used to navigate the web these days that I may
> not know of?)  and do not require physical data downloads?
>
> When people send me dumps expect me to download stuff
> then they call it SW I cannot honestly believe this is where we are
> (sorry if I missed some important updates)
>
>
> P
>
>
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