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RE: technical web standards for eGov

From: Brand Niemann <bniemann@cox.net>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 12:25:52 -0400
To: "'Gannon Dick'" <gannon_dick@yahoo.com>, <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>, "'eGov IG \(Public\)'" <public-egov-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <0e6a01cd27b7$13afd000$3b0f7000$@cox.net>
I was a able to do something with Gannon's data:


From: Gannon Dick [mailto:gannon_dick@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 12:02 PM
To: paoladimaio10@googlemail.com; eGov IG (Public)
Subject: Re: technical web standards for eGov


XML (HTML, etc.) is human readable, but linked data is not "human
comprehensible".  Visualizations provide some ideas, but it's an old story
... when you are looking at a marked-up document you are looking at a
picture of text content, not the text itself.  DATA.GOV published a Drupal 6
implementation some time ago on github.  There is a lot of terminology to
cope with there too.


I used the D2R Server because 1) It delivers Linked Data in a portable
format, and 2) The web server is relatively easy to get working on a local
machine.  You don't need to do any further development of the framework.
The D2R Server software is available on github.  It is also possible, if you
control the data base to extract data directly in a familiar outline/subject
heading form.  If you don't know what the screen shots mean it is because
trying to draw a picture of a hypercube looks strange under the best of
circumstances.  "What the heck is that ?" is fine as long as you understand
that "that" is something desirable to have when you are done.


That said, eGov is a "vertical", a Public Utility, of the Top Level Domains.
No other formulation makes sense ... the risk is that at the bottom,
governance breaks down.  At the bottom, linked data and the semantic web
break down from the same cause, although it can not be said for the same
reason.  Commercial domains are free to "fly-over" (exclude) customers from
their markets.  Governments can not operate this way (excluding people) for
very long.


I'm sure I need more examples that look like familiar organization tables
... working on it :o)





From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
To: eGov IG (Public) <public-egov-ig@w3.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 8:59 AM
Subject: technical web standards for eGov

Now, having Gannon send a file that the browser cannot open brings up
another issue, which may be more general to SW.

Should we, as a W3C IG  ensure that (at least one version of) data
files and docs  re e-Gov shared via the web are  at a minimum,
accessible via web based technologies (I know the browser, is there
anything else that is used to navigate the web these days that I may
not know of?)  and do not require physical data downloads?

When people send me dumps expect me to download stuff
then they call it SW I cannot honestly believe this is where we are
(sorry if I missed some important updates)

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