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Re: Fwd: what do you mean, e-gov?

From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:47:46 +0100
Message-ID: <CAMXe=SpbhbVj8RgiL+epMQFrjPXyGM=hbe3Eg6KnHSGmAfv4yQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Tomasz Janowski <tj@iist.unu.edu>, "eGov IG (Public)" <public-egov-ig@w3.org>
Thank you Tomasz


> The W3C definition of EGOV is at the top of http://www.w3.org/egov/:
> "eGovernment is the use of the Web and other information technologies
> by governments to interact with the citizenry, between departments and
> divisions, and with other governments".

Who wrote this definition? (should the provenance of the working
definition be stated?)

How do we know that this definition is adequate for our purpose, and
represents the view of the list members?
(certainly it does not represent my view of e-Gov, and others
we have heard so far) :-)



It seems to me that such a definition reinforces the structural gap between
'governement' and 'citizenry', rather than diminishing it.

Many of us like to think,for example, that citizens *are* the
government, before they given a blue collar and transformed into fuel
for the bureaucratic, dysfunctional political machinery

Given appropriate democratic practices and adoption of technologies
that support their participation, there should be no us and them.




> This process could perhaps lead to the revision of the W3C definition.


oh yes, please :-)
Thank you


PDM


>
> Regards,
>
> Tomasz
>
>
>> In the definition below, I am particularly interested in the word
>> *transformation.  *
>> *
>> *
>> The question could be formulated as:
>> how do bring transformation of traditional governance (from closed,
>> secretive, self serving, corruption prone self established elites) to
>>  e-governance (assuming we establish among the principles of self
>> governance: opennes, transparency, serving the common good, accountable and
>> participative)
>
>> Since you have a Phd on the subject, could it be a good idea if you started
>> an essay on the topic, and get others to chip in?
>> *
>> *
>> *Cheers*
>> *
>> *
>> *PDM
>> *
>
>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Mick Phythian <mick.phythian@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>> Having done a PhD on the area, the one I settled on was in a Canadian
>>> report by Roy (2006, p.x), he further refines ‘e-government’ as “The
>>> continuous innovation in the delivery of services, citizen participation,
>>> and governance through the transformation of external and internal
>>> relationships by the use of information  technology, especially the
>>> Internet”.
>>>
>>> Roy, J. (2006). *E-Government in Canada* (Reprinted 2008 ed.). Ottawa,
>>> Canada: University of Ottawa.com
>>>
>>> Best of a bad bunch!
>>>
>>> Mick http://greatemancipator.com - still lurking
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24 April 2012 20:09, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> For those who have been around the last twenty years or any
>>>> subset thereof, the question is not new. We each seem to
>>>> use the same word with different meanings (anyone else laughing
>>>> hysterically at this point?)
>>>>
>>>> I was recently giving a talk and providing my own definition(s), and
>>>> would have liked
>>>> to point to the W3C definition of egov. But I could not remember whether
>>>> we agreed on one, and where it can be accessed.  Admittedly I have been
>>>> away a lot lately.
>>>>
>>>> For example,  for me egovernance applies to both
>>>> the governance of civil society institutions (presumably the governance
>>>> democratic institutions that are ruled by first principles, and the
>>>> universal declaration of human rights, although in reality there may not be
>>>> many governments that do so), as well as the governance of online
>>>> communities, whereby the information and decisions are mediated by online
>>>> technologies, or something like that. But not sure if this has been
>>>> discussed
>>>> I do not remember any such discussions on list. Is it my memory failing
>>>> me again?
>>>>
>>>> Any threads/uri's someone could kindly repost if these questions have
>>>> already been asked?
>>>>
>>>>  if not, i would invite the IG Chairs to start off with some proposed
>>>> definitions, either on list or on wiki page possibly one for each term in
>>>> our shared vocabulary, (wiki? url......), then  members (other than pure
>>>> lurkers) could introduce themseles and get their active participation in the
>>>> group going by entering their own definitions/variations, with possibly a
>>>> link to their profile
>>>> so that we can start getting to know each other meaningfully?:-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> sincerely
>>>>
>>>> PDM
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mick Phythian PhD
>>>
>>> http://greatemancipator.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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