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RE: Honest question

From: Bobbin Teegarden <teegs@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 10:07:36 -0700
To: "'Erik Wilde'" <dret@berkeley.edu>, <public-egov-ig@w3.org>
Cc: "'Sean McGrath'" <sean.mcgrath@propylon.com>
Message-ID: <00df01cb492f$03924800$0ab6d800$@net>
A niggling problem with XML is it's (IMHO unnecessary) verbosity.  Take a
look at what Turtle (http://www.w3.org/TeamSubmission/turtle/)  has done for
RDF (an XML example).  For system architects, having all that XML structural
scaffolding as overhead is hard to make go fast, is not particularly
syntactically 'elegant', and the fussy syntax leaves more room for small but
critical errors.  Any way to abstract Turtle for general use?

Bobbin Teegarden
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-----Original Message-----
From: public-egov-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:public-egov-ig-request@w3.org]
On Behalf Of Erik Wilde
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:28 AM
To: public-egov-ig@w3.org
Cc: Sean McGrath
Subject: Re: Honest question

looks like people out there are still suffering from XML fever...

http://dret.net/netdret/docs/wilde-cacm2008-xml-fever.html

i think sean is correct in saying that the problem may not be XML 
itself, but the expectation that it solves all the hard problems which 
are inherent to distribution and decentralization... cheers, dret.

Sean McGrath wrote:
> Mike Norton wrote:
>> Am I the only one in the world who's been driven mad by XML? 
>> Links appreciated....
> Mike,
> 
> No, you are not alone:-) The biggest problem is not related to details
> of syntax etc. in my opinion. The biggest problem is the unrealistic
> expectations placed on XML to solve the worlds interoperability and
> semantic encoding problems. See http://xml.sys-con.com/node/40310.
> 
> regards,
> Sean
> 
> 
> 
> 

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