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Re: Definitions page for Profiles

From: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 13:02:10 -0800
To: public-dxwg-wg@w3.org
Message-ID: <17114ba4-161d-6b60-8d54-db203eec75ff@kcoyle.net>
Antoine, I don't know exactly why that was the decision, although there
is, in my mind, a practical question of what properties are needed to
define new terms, and if those fit with the properties of a profile.
Possibly there are also issues of IRI naming and discovery.

kc

On 1/9/18 12:42 PM, Antoine Isaac wrote:
> Hi Karen,
> 
> You're probably going to hate me for this reaction, especially
> considering the time we've worked together on APs in the DC community...
> But is there a very strong reason to say that something wouldn't be a
> profile because it originates classes and properties?
> To me what was core was the notion of re-using other vocabularies/model
> (it would be much harder to define as a profile something that *only*
> originates classes and properties), but it wasn't obvious that it would
> forbid minting own classes and properties when appropriate.
> So if it makes things easier and this rule of thumb can be softened (if
> it does exist), perhaps we could propose it to the DC community?
> 
> Antoine
> 
> On 18/12/17 15:31, Karen Coyle wrote:
>> Andrea, in answer to #2, by the Dublin Core definition, DCAT itself
>> would not be a profile because it originates classes and properties. DC
>> profiles reuse but do not create vocabulary elements. A DC profile is
>> always based on vocabularies defined (preferably in a standard way)
>> elsewhere.
>>
>> That said, presumably you could create a DCAT profile that is exactly
>> all of the classes and properties that are included in DCAT. If profiles
>> include information such as cardinality, value pick lists, etc., then
>> such a profile would provide information not included in the DCAT
>> ontology.
>>
>> kc
>>
>>
>> On 12/18/17 5:05 AM, andrea.perego@ec.europa.eu wrote:
>>> Dear Karen, dear Ruben,
>>>
>>> Thanks for initiating this page.
>>>
>>> A couple of comments / questions:
>>>
>>> 1. I think it may be worth including an explicit reference to the
>>> definition of "profile" from RFC 6906 ("The 'profile' Link Relation
>>> Type") [1]. @Ruben, if I'm not mistaken your definitions are
>>> partially based on it.
>>>
>>> 2. Looking at the wiki page, it is unclear whether DCAT itself (and
>>> any metadata schema, vocabulary, etc.) is considered or not a "profile".
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Andrea
>>>
>>> ----
>>> [1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6906
>>>
>>> ----
>>> Andrea Perego, Ph.D.
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>>> European Commission DG JRC
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>>> position of the European Commission.
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Karen Coyle [mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 5:11 PM
>>>> To: public-dxwg-wg@w3.org
>>>> Subject: Definitions page for Profiles
>>>>
>>>> Ruben and I have done the first set of definitions on the Profiles
>>>> Context page [1]. You should add your own definitions and also comment
>>>> on those that are there. This is a brainstorming exercise so please
>>>> toss
>>>> out your thoughts, respond to definitions and comments, and contribute
>>>> to this.
>>>>
>>>> kc
>>>> [1]
>>>> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/ProfileContext#Discussion_of_Definitions
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Karen Coyle
>>>> kcoyle@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
>>>> m: 1-510-435-8234 (Signal)
>>>> skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
>>>
>>
> 
> 

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