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Re: Definitions page for Profiles

From: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 21:42:41 +0100
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Hi Karen,

You're probably going to hate me for this reaction, especially considering the time we've worked together on APs in the DC community... But is there a very strong reason to say that something wouldn't be a profile because it originates classes and properties?
To me what was core was the notion of re-using other vocabularies/model (it would be much harder to define as a profile something that *only* originates classes and properties), but it wasn't obvious that it would forbid minting own classes and properties when appropriate.
So if it makes things easier and this rule of thumb can be softened (if it does exist), perhaps we could propose it to the DC community?

Antoine

On 18/12/17 15:31, Karen Coyle wrote:
> Andrea, in answer to #2, by the Dublin Core definition, DCAT itself
> would not be a profile because it originates classes and properties. DC
> profiles reuse but do not create vocabulary elements. A DC profile is
> always based on vocabularies defined (preferably in a standard way)
> elsewhere.
> 
> That said, presumably you could create a DCAT profile that is exactly
> all of the classes and properties that are included in DCAT. If profiles
> include information such as cardinality, value pick lists, etc., then
> such a profile would provide information not included in the DCAT ontology.
> 
> kc
> 
> 
> On 12/18/17 5:05 AM, andrea.perego@ec.europa.eu wrote:
>> Dear Karen, dear Ruben,
>>
>> Thanks for initiating this page.
>>
>> A couple of comments / questions:
>>
>> 1. I think it may be worth including an explicit reference to the definition of "profile" from RFC 6906 ("The 'profile' Link Relation Type") [1]. @Ruben, if I'm not mistaken your definitions are partially based on it.
>>
>> 2. Looking at the wiki page, it is unclear whether DCAT itself (and any metadata schema, vocabulary, etc.) is considered or not a "profile".
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Andrea
>>
>> ----
>> [1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6906
>>
>> ----
>> Andrea Perego, Ph.D.
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>> European Commission DG JRC
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>> Unit B6 - Digital Economy
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>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Karen Coyle [mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net]
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 5:11 PM
>>> To: public-dxwg-wg@w3.org
>>> Subject: Definitions page for Profiles
>>>
>>> Ruben and I have done the first set of definitions on the Profiles
>>> Context page [1]. You should add your own definitions and also comment
>>> on those that are there. This is a brainstorming exercise so please toss
>>> out your thoughts, respond to definitions and comments, and contribute
>>> to this.
>>>
>>> kc
>>> [1]
>>> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/ProfileContext#Discussion_of_Definitions
>>> --
>>> Karen Coyle
>>> kcoyle@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
>>> m: 1-510-435-8234 (Signal)
>>> skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
>>
> 
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