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Re: scope of profile (negotiation) group

From: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 09:06:34 -0700
To: public-dxwg-wg@w3.org
Message-ID: <070fd457-fc56-010c-db18-93b30053baf4@kcoyle.net>
Antoine, thanks, this is indeed what I hope we will have resolved by the
end of the f2f, but it could be very helpful to begin the discussion in
email and/or github.

I think what is tripping us up at the moment is that the concept of
"profile" is intertwined both with DCAT and with content negotiation,
but we do not yet have a clear definition of what we mean by profile. It
may be best to get clear on that before we talk about profiles in the
two contexts.

We have a base definition [1] which reads:

"A profile is a named set of constraints on one or more identified base
specifications, including the identification of any implementing
subclasses of datatypes, semantic interpretations, vocabularies, options
and parameters of those base specifications necessary to accomplish a
particular function."

This is a good start but we'll need to get into more detail before we
can resolve the larger issue that you bring up, and which I think is
about how we scope the concept of "profile". Here's a short list of what
I see as possible full definitions:

1. A profile is anything that meets the above definition and has a URL
(this is essentially Lars' proposal [2])
2. A profile is anything that meets the above definition and has a
(optional?) profile description (Nick & Rob's proposal [3])
3. A profile is anything that meets the above definition and all of the
approved requirements [4] [5]

I'll soon post something about the profile requirements which may help
us discuss this all further.

kc


[1] https://w3c.github.io/dxwg/profiles/
[2] https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/196
[3] https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/tree/gh-pages/profiledesc
[4] https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/72
[5] https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/75

On 4/18/18 7:42 AM, Antoine Isaac wrote:
> Hi everyone (esp Karen, Peter, Lars, Rob and Ruben)
> 
> I'm considering trying to be more involved in the profile work, but I am
> not sure where I can fit in - and what are the responsibilities and scopes.
> 
> It starts from the discussion we had yesterday on PR198:
> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/198
> Apparently there is now a wiki page that says who would approve/merge it:
> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/GitHub_etiquette#Contributing_to_the_normative_deliverables
> 
> There Lars, Rob and Ruben are indeed assigned to the object of PR198
> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/blob/gh-pages/profiledesc/profiledesc.html.
> But this ontology by Rob and Nick is not really about content
> negotiation - it's more about describing what is negotiated.
> 
> On the other hand, the wiki page does not list Lars, Rob and Ruben as
> responsible of a document that shows them as editors:
> https://w3c.github.io/dxwg/profiles/
> Actually I'm not sure what is the scope of this document: the title
> seems to hint that there is more than negotiation into it, while the
> content is still quite focused on negotiation, as Karen remarked in this
> issue:
> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/196
> 
> As noted in issue 196, I've tried to look through all our past minutes
> about organizing this work, and it's still not clear whether we want to
> have one deliverable on both negotiation and guidance, or two
> deliverables, and whether we should progress on both at the same time.
> And whether Lars, Rob and Ruben need help for what they are (perhaps
> informally) tasked to do!
> 
> Hopefully the F2F (or perhaps even an earlier call?) will shed some
> light on all this.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Antoine
> 
> 

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