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Re: New BP (?) - Using standards for distributing datasets for specific domains or applications

From: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 23:27:25 +0100
Message-ID: <56DA0BCD.2020908@few.vu.nl>
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Hi Annette,

In case you're refering to my email, sorry, I was awfully unclear. I was working on fitting GTFS material into the vocabulary BPs when I wrote it, following the discussion we had during the call. It would be confusing to talk about formats (files and syntaxes) in these vocabulary BPs. Formats sit elsewhere.

If anyone else want to tackle the format aspect in a different BP, I have no strong objection, even though I feel we (at least I!) have less to say there.

Antoine

On 3/4/16 6:40 PM, Annette Greiner wrote:
> # This seems as much in scope as standard vocabularies. What is the argument for considering formats out of scope? Item 2 in our mission is to provide *guidance to publishers* that will improve consistency in the way data is managed, thus promoting the re-use of data;
> If we can suggest that they use standardized data models and formats, we do exactly that. If some of us feel that this is too much like telling people how to build their dataset, I would argue that we are doing the same thing by telling them what terms to use. Neither thing is constrained to the job of publishing the data on the web, but both are important for that and are good promoters of reuse.
> -Annette
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> On 3/4/16 7:44 AM, Laufer wrote:
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>> Hi All,
>> I do not know if this should be a new BP, if it could be incorporated to the BP about standardized terms, or should be thought as an extension included in a BP document of another group. Or none of them.
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>> The inspiration came from GTFS (https://developers.google.com/transit/gtfs/), a standard way of defining timetables.
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>> Here are some extractions from the GTFS site:
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>> “The General Transit Feed Specification (GTFS) defines a common format for public transportation schedules and associated geographic information. GTFS "feeds" allow public transit agencies to publish their transit data and developers to write applications that consume that data in an interoperable way.”
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>> “A GTFS feed is composed of a series of text (csv) files collected in a ZIP file. Each file models a particular aspect of transit information: stops, routes, trips, and other schedule data. A transit agency can produce a GTFS feed to share their public transit information with developers, who write tools that consume GTFS feeds to incorporate public transit information into their applications. GTFS can be used to power trip planners, time table publishers, and a variety of applications, too diverse to list here, that use public transit information in some way.”
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>> It is more than the vocabulary used. It is also a specific way of distributing the dataset. Could we call this a kind of standard dataset type?
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>> Does it makes sense?
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>> Cheers, Laufer
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> Annette Greiner
> NERSC Data and Analytics Services
> Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
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