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Re: dwbp-ISSUE-144: There is a technological bias in several parts of the document [Best practices document(s)]

From: Carlos Iglesias <contact@carlosiglesias.es>
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 00:33:59 +0100
Message-ID: <CAAa1Xznw5KQCtAYGL3bs-XEComyHJ4ZBguLPJ519b=A5=5Cb6g@mail.gmail.com>
To: Augusto Herrmann <augusto.herrmann@gmail.com>
Cc: Public DWBP WG <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
Hello Augusto,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this, please find some additional
comments below:

We need to remember this document is about the best practices for data *on
> the web*, and not best practices for data on the internet.
>
> Considering this, IMO any technologies mentioned in the World Wide Web
> Architecture [1] document should NOT be technology agnostic on the DWBP.
> That includes terms such as HTTP, URLs and URIs, which should be
> specifically and explicitly addressed (and not just IDs and protocols in
> general).
>

I tend to disagree here. Principles remain, technologies evolve. Good
quality BPs should keep tech agnostic as even the most basic Web
technologies may vary or evolve in the future (e.g. HTTPS or IRIs)


As for the technological bias regarding the SW and LD, how about moving the
> parts that are specific about those to separate, non-normative sections
> dedicated to publishing LD? I agree that they could be confusing for LD
> outsiders, but I still think those could be useful practices when
> publishing LD, and there's no point on having a separate "Linked Data on
> the Web Best Practices", or is there?
>

In fact there is no point on having a separate BPs for Linked Data
document, specially because that already exists [1], but also because there
is absolutely no problem in having specific SW and LD related techniques in
the implementation sections document, the only problem is with having any
technological bias (SW/LD or any other) in all other parts of the document
that should be just explanatory tech-neutral BPs.


[1] - [http://www.w3.org/TR/ld-bp/]


> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/
>
> Best regards,
> Augusto Herrmann
>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br
> > wrote:
> Hi Carlos,
>
> Thank you very much for your detailed review of the BP document! We're
> gonna review the document again and we're gonna try to remove as much
> as possible the techonological bias that you mentioned in your
> comments. Some parts of the text were changed already, but we're gonna
> make another review.
>
> I have a comment about vocabularies and data models, but I'm gonna
> discuss this in a more appropriate thread, ok?
>
> Cheers,
> Bernadette
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2015-01-30 10:51 GMT-03:00 Carlos Iglesias <carlos.iglesias.moro@gmail.com
> >:
> > Hi Caroline and everyone,
> >
> > Sorry but the belated response, but I was heavily traveling during the
> week
> > (hint: ccy'ing to the personal email address may also help to get quicker
> > responses when you want to address someone specifically :)
> > I have just made a quick&dirty review to get you some pointers to
> specific
> > examples. You can see the results at
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ecwweAM5t4UVFEjcXnFhXmCUBnRDvwZ1smRLtiKkBEI/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> > Sorry for the GDoc, I know it is not really friendly with the W3C
> archiving
> > policy, but this time I just needed to keep this time and effort wise in
> > order to keep advancing. Also this has been widely discussed before
> through
> > the mailing list and specific issues raised and tracked, so I expect Phil
> > may forgive me just for this time.
> >
> > Please note that I'm focusing only on the editorial tech-bias review
> here,
> > but my other points and issues raised before [1-6] still remain valid as
> > well (although looks like some have been already fixed).
> >
> > [1] - [
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jan/0186.html]
> > [2] - [
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jan/0225.html]
> > [3] - [
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jan/0178.html]
> > [4] - [
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jan/0183.html]
> > [5] - [
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jan/0264.html]
> > [6] - [
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jan/0177.html]
> >
> > Best,
> >  CI.
>



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