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Re: dwbp-ISSUE-213 (BP_REST): Changes on BP about REST APIs [Best practices document(s)]

From: Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 09:17:06 -0300
Message-ID: <CANx1Pzz0b4_E2om0DF6P3a-HiJBH4yGcwT=cagnDyc3Usf4DKQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Yasodara <yaso@nic.br>
Cc: Annette Greiner <amgreiner@lbl.gov>, "public-dwbp-wg@w3.org" <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>, Erik Wilde <erik.wilde@dret.net>
Hi Yaso,

Thanks for the updates! Could you please also include some examples on the
BP according to the example that is being used in the DWBP doc [1]?

Thanks!
Berna

[1] http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#basicExample

2015-12-04 9:09 GMT-03:00 Yasodara <yaso@nic.br>:

> Hi Annete, Erik and everyone,
>
> I made a lot of changes in the draft proposed by Annete, hope to make a
> pull request at github for the editors, but it would be nice if you could
> take a look.
>
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/13q2CvZjMkjXrg7Pv7aTRuU5UL2J_-py09Vs_zJoaLso/edit#
>
>
> yaso
>
>
>
>
> On 11/23/2015 08:24 PM, Annette Greiner wrote:
> > Hi Erik,
> > I can live with avoiding using the word REST when it isn't used to
> > describe an API that follows all the REST constraints, but there is a
> > webby coding style that most web API developers follow that often makes
> > use of hypermedia but doesn't rely on it for holding state. Developers
> > using this style do expose resources with consistent IDs identified by
> > URIs and manipulated via representations. What do you suggest we call
> > that approach?
> > -Annette
> >
> > On 11/23/15 12:26 AM, Erik Wilde wrote:
> > > On 2015-11-20 20:51, Annette Greiner wrote:
> > >> As a group, we have, I think wisely, avoided centering any of the best
> > >> practices on any single technology, because we want the practices to
> be
> > >> able to survive the forward progress of technology and popularity. We
> > >> can mention specific technologies in the implementation sections,
> > >> though.
> > >
> > > +1 for not recommending specific technologies, and +1 for maybe
> > > listing some as examples if that's a pattern throughout the spec.
> > >
> > >> I also believe we need to consider pragmatic REST as well as HATEOAS.
> > >
> > > REST has a proper definition. "pragmatic REST" doesn't (or it's
> > > something along the lines of "do whatever you like via HTTP, mostly
> > > use it like FTP with a different name").
> > >
> > > HATEOAS *as a name* should be avoided, people actively try to avoid it
> > > these days. call it hypermedia instead, and say that it's the essence
> > > of webbyness.
> > >
> > >>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 11:52 AM, Pieter Colpaert
> > >>> Instead I would suggest taking it a step further. When we combine
> > >>> REST, HATEOAS, Linked Data and HTTP for an Open Data API thoroughly,
> > >>> you'd come up with Hydra [1] (a community group [2] at W3C). Wouldn't
> > >>> it be better to create a best practise that says you need to weave
> > >>> your data documents together with Hydra?
> > >
> > > i concur with annette when it comes to not recommending specific
> > > technologies. also, you can make much more lightweight recommendations
> > > than this one, which means that people have to use the RDF metamodel.
> > >
> > > what might be a very lightweight and pragmatic best practice about
> > > hypermedia would by to say that one of the essential aspects of
> > > hypermedia are typed links:
> > >
> > >
> https://github.com/dret/hyperpedia/blob/master/concepts.md#link-relation-type
> > >
> > >
> > > and that when it comes to typed links, RFC 5988 and the resulting link
> > > type registry at
> > > http://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relations.xhtml
> > > provide a simple foundation for anybody to build their vocabulary on.
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > >
> > > dret.
> > >
> >
>
> --
> -yaso
>
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Bernadette Farias Lóscio
Centro de Informática
Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil
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