Re: Editable version of DUV model Action-178

Bernadette,

I agree mostly with you :-) the more we talk about it, the more I'm
understanding Laufer's questions about how UsageAnnotation and Feedback are
clearly distinguished.

Here is where I agree:

UsageAnnotation- as a way to tag a dataset with metadata that contains: 1)
helpful usage information 2) references to other web resources.

I think it is good to allow consumers to provide these kind of annotations,
I differentiate this from feedback which are more discussion forums that
allow consumers to feedback (directed graph) about a dataset.

Here is where we may be thinking of something different:

I would prefer to use CiTO for citations, otherwise we risk providing
something so generic that users don't have a standardized way to declare
citations.  Also the more I think about it, the citations should be linked
to the Dataset. were you thinking of something different?

Many thanks,

Eric S

On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:58 AM, Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>
wrote:

> Hi Eric,
>
> I have just one comment:
>
>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> Thank you very much for the examples! They are really useful! My comments
>> are inline.
>>
>>>
>>> Example 1:  Jian wants to provide "readme" information that includes
>>> recommended uses and some background information with a previously
>>> published climate model diagnostics dataset
>>> http://example.com/atmos/sgp-uncertainty/ .  To do this Jian publishes
>>> "duv:UsageAnnotation".
>>>
>>
>> Yes. In this case, Jian creates an annotation that describes a specific
>> type of DatasetUsage (ex: duv:GeneralInformation). However, the current
>> version of the model doesn't have this type of DatasetUsage.Should we
>> include a new subclass?
>>
>> I was thinking this was UsageAnnotation, no?
>>
>
>
> I was thinking UsageAnnotation as a way to annotate a dataset with
> information about its usage. In this case, UsageAnnotation may be used to
> annotate a dataset with information about applications that use the dataset
> as well as to describe possible citations. The idea is to have a way to
> associate a dataset with information about how the dataset has being used.
>
> For example, a consumer uses the duv:Application to describe how he is
> using the dataset in a given application and the publisher uses
> duv:UsageAnnotation to describe who is using the dataset. Maybe, we can say
> that a duv:UsageAnnotation is a set of one or more duv:DatasetUsage.
>
> Cheers,
> Bernadette
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Example 2:  Laura has a perl script 2d-plotter.pl that creates
>>> quarterly (3 month) jpeg plots from netcdf files contained in the model
>>> diagnostics dataset http://example.com/atmos/sgp-uncertainty/ . Laura
>>> makes the perl script available in github and publishes "duv:Application"
>>> that associates 2d-plotter.pl with the dataset.
>>>
>>
>> Yes. From the point of view of Laura, she publishes a duv:Application.
>> However, from the point of view of the Publisher, it is also possible to
>> associate a duv:UsageAnnotation to the dataset in order to provide
>> information about who is using the dataset. Does it make sense for you
>>
>> Yes
>>
>>
>>> Example 3:  Matt publishes a peer reviewed technical report on errors
>>> and imprecision found in the model diagnostics dataset over limited time
>>> periods when the observational data was collected. Matt publishes
>>> "duv:Citation" that associates a citation reference to the technical report.
>>>
>>
>> Yes! This is similar to Example 2.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Is this how you are thinking it would work?  I am beginning to wonder if
>>> we really need the DatasetUsage class, I don't know what this adds.  It is
>>> helpful in the conceptual model, but in practice it seems like it
>>> unnecessary overhead.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>
>> I agree with you that in practice maybe it won't be necessary to have the
>> DatasetUsage class. However, let's wait a little more before to remove it
>> :) Let's see if it is really unnecessary.
>>
>> I am fine with this, thanks!
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bernadette
>>
>>
>>> Eric S
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:37 AM, Bernadette Farias Lóscio <
>>> bfl@cin.ufpe.br> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Eric,
>>>>
>>>> The idea of having the class duv:UsageAnnotation is to have a way to
>>>> describe how datasets can be annotated with information about their usage.
>>>> In this case, I don't see it as a subclass of duv:DatasetUsage.
>>>>
>>>> We can also have a similar way to annotate a dataset with information
>>>> about feedback gathered from consumers.
>>>>
>>>> I think that in the dataset usage vocab, we should consider two
>>>> scenarios. The first one is how data consumers will provide information
>>>> about the dataset usage and feedback. The second one is how a dataset can
>>>> be annotated with such information. Does it make sense for you?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Bernadette
>>>>
>>>> 2015-04-22 9:14 GMT-03:00 Eric Stephan <ericphb@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> Bernadette,
>>>>>
>>>>> I really like where you put data citation as a subclass to
>>>>> duv:DatasetUsage (I changed the class name, do you agree?), it seems like
>>>>> UsageAnnotation could be a subclass to DatasetUsage.  What are your
>>>>> thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric S
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:01 AM, Bernadette Farias Lóscio <
>>>>> bfl@cin.ufpe.br> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ok Eric! Thank you!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>> Bernadette
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2015-04-22 8:55 GMT-03:00 Eric Stephan <ericphb@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Bernadette,  it looks great.  I'm just responding with the
>>>>>>> action number to record your email in the action tracker.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eric S
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Bernadette Farias Lóscio <
>>>>>>> bfl@cin.ufpe.br> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now we have an editable version of the DUV model available on
>>>>>>>> google drive [1].
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please feel free to make comments and updates!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>>>> Bernadette
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1aq3vPcoj0SPs5BispD6umQNejrBTwkhsSYu6Y1adUjw/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Bernadette Farias Lóscio
>>>>>>>> Centro de Informática
>>>>>>>> Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil
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>>>>>> Bernadette Farias Lóscio
>>>>>> Centro de Informática
>>>>>> Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil
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>>>> Bernadette Farias Lóscio
>>>> Centro de Informática
>>>> Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil
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>> Bernadette Farias Lóscio
>> Centro de Informática
>> Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil
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