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Re: User defined information on the web

From: Annette Greiner <amgreiner@lbl.gov>
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:03:11 -0800
To: Wolfgang Orthuber <orthuber@kfo-zmk.uni-kiel.de>, public-dwbp-comments@w3.org
Message-ID: <41ccf344-15d0-5401-8b8a-eefaa1015515@lbl.gov>
This sounds like an idea for the IEFT more than W3C. I think it is quite 
far beyond the scope of our best practices document to discuss a 
proposed new technology that has not been generally adopted, let alone 
proven to be a best practice.

-Annette


On 1/13/17 6:31 AM, Wolfgang Orthuber wrote:
> Hi, Data on the Web Best Practitioners–
>
> Today I saw https://www.w3.org/TR/dwbp. I respect the effort in 
> detail, but the overall problem remains: We do not need this overhead 
> to place information on the web and this is no systematic approach for 
> user defined information. Users have best expertise to define useful 
> information.
>
> It is advisable to restart from the beginning. Then we can see a 
> better founded and much more efficient way for coding uniformly 
> defined and precisely searchable information on the internet:
>
> Well defined information means selection from a well defined set or 
> "domain". So preconditions for precise transfer of information are:
>
> (1) Well defined domain (for all participants of conversation)
> (2) Ordered domain (so that its elements are selectable by numbers)
> (3) Transfer of the (digital) numbers which show the selection in the 
> domain
>
> If the domain is defined online, it can be identified by its URL. 
> According to (2) the domain is a n-dimensional metric space - 
> therefore I called it "Domain Space" (DS). Its elements are called 
> "Domain Vectors" (DVs).
>
> Every DV carries searchable information according to user defined 
> criteria and has the form
>     URL (of the standardized online definition) plus number sequence
> where the (online definition at the URL) defines the domain and the 
> number sequence describes the selection. The URL can be abbreviated.
>
> The online definition can be in English. Additionally it can be in 
> other languages. So the definition can be multilingual, but correctly 
> defined data (DVs) are language independent, see
> http://numericsearch.com/2016_BD_presentation_short.pdf , more details 
> describes http://oceanrep.geomar.de/34556
>
> Users can reuse and recombine definitions, optimize the definitions 
> and the search criteria according to their expertise. Of course DVs 
> are an internal form of information, optimized for hardware. For human 
> readable representation of DVs adapted software has to use the 
> (machine readable) online definition. But also an editor is software, 
> so we can also program more elaborate software which uses a 
> standardized machine readable online definition for editing DVs. In 
> the long run efficiency of the digital information is decisive. 
> Science cannot neglect this.
>
> It is possible to introduce the efficient data format (URL + numbers) 
> stepwise within existing standards, but we should avoid unnecessary 
> loss of time. A clearly more efficient data format is clearly 
> recommendable.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Wolfgang Orthuber
> Kiel University, UKSH
> Arnold Heller Str. 3, House 26 | 24105 Kiel | Germany
>
>

-- 
Annette Greiner
NERSC Data and Analytics Services
Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
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