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RE: Proposal: remove aria-describedat from the ARIA 1.1 specification

From: Cynthia Shelly <cyns@microsoft.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:48:00 +0000
To: Shane McCarron <shane@aptest.com>, Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org>
CC: "Gunderson, Jon R" <jongund@illinois.edu>, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, Chaals McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, W3C WAI Protocols & Formats <public-pfwg@w3.org>, "public-digipub-ig@w3.org" <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
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How common is the use case or extended descriptions on non-images? Is it something we need to solve right now, or could it wait for ARIA 2.0?

I’m still not convinced that we need something other than aria-describedby here. The difference between describedby and describedat is that describedby points to something the page and describedat points to a URL. Describedat is just like longdesc when used on an image.

When pointing to something in the page, is it really true that we need 3 separate strings?  How common is it for content to have all 3?

Name (AAPI property only)
Description (AAPI property and referenced object)
Extended description (referenced object only)


From: ahby@aptest.com [mailto:ahby@aptest.com] On Behalf Of Shane McCarron
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 8:38 AM
To: Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org>
Cc: Gunderson, Jon R <jongund@illinois.edu>; Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>; Chaals McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>; Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>; W3C WAI Protocols & Formats <public-pfwg@w3.org>; public-digipub-ig@w3.org
Subject: Re: Proposal: remove aria-describedat from the ARIA 1.1 specification



On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org<mailto:charlesl@benetech.org>> wrote:
This issue for extended external descriptions is not only an issue for Images, but will be used on any web element potentially (tables for a simple example).


This is actually a super important point.  In the ARIA call yesterday we were asking if this was only related to images.  If it is not... then I don't know that anything we have been discussing is really general purpose except the summary / details relationship that we are discussing right now.

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Shane McCarron
Managing Director, Applied Testing and Technology, Inc.
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