- From: Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 09:35:43 +0200
- To: AUDRAIN LUC <LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr>, LAURA DAWSON <ljndawson@gmail.com>, W3C Digital Publishing IG <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
Luc, I have added your name to the attendees list. thanks. Thierry On 08/09/2014 19:38, AUDRAIN LUC wrote: > Hi, > > In this list, mine is +33.6.48.38.aabb > > Best, > Luc > > > Luc AUDRAIN > _______________________________ > Hachette Livre, > Direction Innovation et Technologie Numérique > Head of Digitalization > Téléphone : 01 41 23 63 70 > Mobile : 06 48 38 21 41 > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Thierry MICHEL [mailto:tmichel@w3.org] > Envoyé : lundi 8 septembre 2014 19:27 > À : LAURA DAWSON; W3C Digital Publishing IG > Objet : Re: [Minutes] 2014-09-08 Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference > > Laura, > > You must be one of the following telephone number for which I couln't > map to the name of the caller > > +1.917.447.aaaa, > +1.718.701.aaee, > +91.99.70.18.aadd, > +33.6.48.38.aabb, > +1.734.904.aacc, > > let me know which one it was. > > Anyway, I have added your name to the list of attendees.. > > Thierry > > > > On 08/09/2014 18:52, LAURA DAWSON wrote: >> Hi, Thierry - I was also there but could not get onto IRC for some reasonŠ. >> >> On 9/8/14, 12:49 PM, "Thierry MICHEL" <tmichel@w3.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> The minutes of the Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference >>> dated 2014-09-08 are now available at >>> >>> http://www.w3.org/2014/09/08-dpub-minutes.html >>> >>> These public minutes are also linked from the dpub wiki >>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Meetings >>> >>> Also find these minutes in a text version following, for your convenience. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Thierry Michel >>> >>> ---------------------------- >>> >>> [1]W3C >>> >>> [1] http://www.w3.org/ >>> >>> Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference >>> >>> 08 Sept 2014 >>> >>> [2]Agenda >>> >>> [2] http://www.w3.org/mid/5409D195.6000902@gmail.com >>> >>> See also: [3]IRC log >>> >>> [3] http://www.w3.org/2014/09/08-dpub-irc >>> >>> Attendees: >>> [4]Phil Madans (philm), [5]Ivan Herman (Ivan), >>> [6]Deborah Kaplan (dkaplan3), [7]Brady Duga (duga), >>> [8]Markus Gylling (mgylling), [9]Tzviya Siegman >>> (tzviya), [10]Liza Daly (liza), [11]Luc Audrain (Luc), >>> [12]Charles LaPierre (clapierre), [13]Bill Kasdorf >>> (Bill_Kasdorf), [14]Shinyu Murakami (murakami), >>> [15]Julie Morris (Julie) , [16]Madi Solomon (madi), >>> [17]Liam Quin (Liam), [18]David Stroup (david_stroup), >>> [19]Tom De Nies (TomDN), [20]Paul Belfanti (pBelfanti), >>> [21]Vladimir Levantovsky (Vlad), [22]Akshat Joshi >>> (AkshatJoshi), [23]Thierry Michel (tmichel), [24]Ben Ko >>> (benjaminsko),[25] Robert Sanderson (azaroth), >>> [26]Patrick_Pagano (Patrick_Pagano), >>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Phil_Madans >>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ivan_Herman >>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Deborah_Kaplan >>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Brady_Duga >>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Markus_Gylling >>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Tzviya_Siegman >>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Liza_Daly >>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Luc_Audrain >>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Charles_LaPierre >>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Bill_Kasdorf >>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Shinyu_Murakami >>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Julie_Morris >>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Madi_Solomon >>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Liam_Quin >>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/David_Stroup >>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Tom_De_Nies >>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Paul_Belfanti >>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Vladimir_Levantovsky >>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Akshat_Joshi >>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Thierry_Michel >>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Ben_Ko >>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Robert_Sanderson >>> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Patrick_Pagano >>> >>> +1.917.447.aaaa,+1.718.701.aaee, +91.99.70.18.aadd, >>> +33.6.48.38.aabb, +1.734.904.aacc, >>> >>> Regrets: >>> Dave Cramer (dauwhe), Alan Stearns (Stearns), Peter >>> Krautzberger (pkra), Karen Myers (Karen_Myers),Michael >>> Miller (Mike). >>> >>> Chair >>> Markus Gylling (mgylling) >>> >>> Scribe >>> Julie Morris (Julie) >>> >>> Contents >>> >>> * [27]Topics >>> * [28]Summary of Action Items >>> __________________________________________________________ >>> >>> <trackbot> Date: 08 September 2014 >>> >>> <ivan> scribenick: julie >>> >>> <liza> I volunteer for next time I'm on the call since I'm no >>> longer chairing (but I'll be out next week) >>> >>> Markus: any objections to previous week's minutes- none, >>> approved >>> >>> MGilling: Bill K. will review first draft of metadata TF >>> >>> PF meeting last week >>> >>> two topics: 1) role attributes >>> >>> <AkshatJ> sorry.. but aaad is Akshat Joshi from India >>> >>> Tzviya: had a call to determine next steps with protocols and >>> formats >>> >>> <AkshatJ> thank ivan :) >>> >>> some of documentation more formal than what group's >>> documentation has been in the past >>> >>> Tzviya is working on formalizing ideas on why it's necessary to >>> include several shared terms within the vocab for DPIG and PF >>> >>> she will have the document to share with all next week >>> >>> MGylling: what do you see as the end result for this work? >>> >>> Tzviya: goal is to figure out a way to refine HTML terms to >>> give them a bit more digital publishing-specific meaning >>> >>> meaningful for educational content >>> >>> read-aloud functionality, defining behaviors for a sighted or >>> non-sighted reader >>> >>> <mgylling> btw, recap: >>> [29]https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/StructuralSemantics#Approac >>> hes:Solution_Criteria_and_Options >>> >>> [29] >>> https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/StructuralSemantics#Approaches:Solution_Cr >>> iteria_and_Options >>> >>> MGylling: either HTML5 needs to change, or EPUB spec will >>> override the HTML5 spec >>> ... when should EPUB be addressed... should we wait or act >>> simultaneously with PF >>> >>> Tzviya: want to avoid drawing out process >>> ... should timeline be part of document (for recommeded changes >>> to HTML) >>> >>> <ivan> +1 to Markus >>> >>> MGylling: at minimum, recognize the overlap and importance of >>> timing >>> >>> Deborah: Tzviya has covered most of issues, there are some >>> other issues specific to accessibility, the Access. TF will be >>> scheduling a meeting ASAP to address >>> ... there may be some overlap with work that happens in PF, we >>> will make sure the overlap is dealt with, but that these issues >>> are also somewhat separate from PF >>> ... will connect with Judy Brewer >>> >>> <Zakim> liam, you wanted to mention HTML accessibility tf >>> >>> Liam: mentioned accessibility TF, may be some connections >>> >>> Bill K: metadata report draft... >>> >>> Materials in GitHub now, Ivan has agreed to co-read and co-edit >>> >>> scribe: now open to the whole DPIG to contribute >>> >>> <ivan> [30]http://w3c.github.io/dpub-metadata/ : report >>> >>> [30] http://w3c.github.io/dpub-metadata/ >>> >>> scribe: three things currently there: 1) interview summary; >>> interviews with people from a variety of publishing sectors on >>> the pain points in metadata; 2) Madi Solomon's interviews of >>> people within Pearson + her report; 3) Bill K and Madi S's >>> conclusions for what needs to be done >>> ... question is now what to recommend to the W3C for possible >>> action, grounded in interviews and summary >>> ... trade mainly concerned about discovery, educational focused >>> on asset & content management, scholarly sees it as more or >>> less a solved problem, news orgs. feel an urgency to write >>> metadata >>> ... summary not intended to be editorial, should be unbiased >>> report of what was heard. Next step is to move ahead with >>> recommendations >>> ... looking for feedback from the IG >>> >>> <ivan> [31]Initial recommendations >>> >>> [31] http://w3c.github.io/dpub-metadata/#initial-recommendations >>> >>> scribe: futile for the w3C to establish vocabularies when there >>> are existing vocabularies that work >>> ... idea of schema.org a good example, the TF does believe >>> schema.org can be enhanced with data used in ONIX >>> ... but not necessarily as an "ONIX lite" >>> ... some of ONIX is relevant, others not, >>> >>> <madi> Must run. Thank you Bill and Ivan. >>> >>> BISG is setting up a working group to identify the most >>> essential ONIX elements to be carried forward to schema.org >>> additions >>> >>> scribe: will work with W3C to figure out where to take it from >>> there >>> >>> Ivan: will have to figure out how the W3C and BISG will work >>> together for mutual benefit to accomplish this >>> >>> Bill K: good thing that BIll, Julie, Graham, and Laura Dawson >>> all members of both BISG schema.org WG and W3C DPIG >>> >>> Bill K; next step to identify priorities >>> >>> <pbelfanti> apologies, need to drop >>> >>> <ivan> Richard Wallis is the person to talk to >>> >>> linked data for libraries project w/OCLC >>> >>> scribe: how will this work interact with current work going on >>> there? >>> >>> <ivan> [32]list of participants in the schemabibtex group >>> >>> [32] http://www.w3.org/community/schemabibex/participants >>> >>> Laura: work at OCLC spearheaded by Richard Wallis, was heavily >>> library-centric >>> >>> <azaroth> +1 to trying (again :) ) to breaking down the silos >>> :) >>> >>> Bill K: library community far ahead of publishing in linked >>> data space >>> >>> <dkaplan3> +1 to synthesizing library and publisher needs, and >>> working with lib linked dasta people >>> >>> Tzviya: ?'s about overall metadata TF document... >>> >>> some are issues IG can approach and some are not >>> >>> scribe: burdensomeness of metadata related to lack of metadata >>> traveling with content >>> >>> Bill K: important to note different types of metadata; some >>> lives with content >>> >>> Tzviya: inconsistency also develops with lack of >>> rules/standards, i.e. ISO dates >>> >>> Bill K: metadata associated with publication at a high level >>> also needs to be associated with chunks within the content >>> >>> these are DB issues that are not necessarily DPIG issues >>> >>> Ivan: WRT creating URLs or URL-like structures, these should be >>> used for metadata >>> ... needs to be emphasized in the document the connections >>> between annotations >>> >>> Bill K: need comments about what W3C recommendations should >>> focus on, i.e. schema.org work >>> >>> scribe: i.e. what recommendations within the document are W3C >>> issues >>> >>> MGylling: Tzviya could repeat her comments in an email as a >>> start? >>> >>> Tzviya will do >>> >>> Ivan: IG can use the tracker to discuss/manage specific issues, >>> so any email that goes through the IG referencing this issue >>> will be logged >>> ... if there are changes, these should be added directly to >>> GitHub >>> ... tracker should be used to properly record issues >>> >>> MGylling: final agenda item - agenda for TPAC >>> >>> <azaroth> :) Thank you Tzviya >>> >>> MGylling: IG has had good progress for finding a replacement >>> co-chair, but not formally decided-- Tzviya will soon be able >>> to step up as co-chair >>> >>> <Luc> +1 >>> >>> Tzviya will be there and help lead TPAC >>> >>> <philm> +1 >>> >>> +1 >>> >>> <Bill_Kasdorf> Hooray!! >>> >>> MGylling: ... which other WGs should the IG try to set up >>> meetings with >>> >>> proposed draft of agenda for next meeting >>> >>> <azaroth> The overlap with Annotations is so high I'm not sure >>> that there's any need to have a formal, separate meeting? >>> >>> scribe: WG's to meet with: Protocols and Formats, CSS, >>> ... agenda for CSS? draft of pagination requirements to present >>> to them >>> >>> Tzviya: just a few elements ready most likley >>> ... HTML WG, meeting re-validation issues a possibility >>> ... Ivan will help identify who on HTML are key to meet with >>> ... Liam may be able to identify Accessibility TF contacts >>> ...Ivan: is pagination discussion something that would require >>> changes on the dom level? >>> >>> <liam> [i'm the staff contact for the html accessibility tf] >>> >>> MGylling: what about Annotations? Ivan: WG will have meeting on >>> Tues >>> ... large degree of overlap between Annotations and DPIG, but >>> not specific topics to discuss at this point >>> >>> Charlie LaPierre: possible meeting between diagrams team and >>> accessibility team re-SVG attribution >>> >>> scribe: accessibility WG meeting on Th & Fri. >>> >>> Ahn Bui at Benetech on accessibility team >>> >>> <azaroth> +1 :) >>> >>> scribe: Benetech has offered to have an after-meeting gathering >>> >>> at some point during the week >>> >>> Tzviya: what about internationalization? >>> >>> Right-left and Vertical-right are huges issues >>> >>> scribe: pagination could be a topic to reach out to that group >>> for help on >>> >>> Ivan: F2F this week in Beijing on Chinese requirements >>> ... only one character set, but an important one >>> >>> MGylling: co-chairs and Ivan will produce a proposed agenda >>> next week, open to suggestions >>> ... thanks everyone, until next Monday >>> >>> [end of call] >>> >>> Summary of Action Items >>> >>> [End of minutes] >>> __________________________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Minutes formatted by David Booth's [33]scribe.perl version >>> 1.138 ([34]CVS log) >>> $Date: 2014-09-08 16:47:25 $ >>> __________________________________________________________ >>> >>> [33] >>> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm >>> [34] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/ >>> >>> Scribe.perl diagnostic output >>> >>> [Delete this section before finalizing the minutes.] >>> This is scribe.perl Revision: 1.138 of Date: 2013-04-25 13:59:11 >>> Check for newer version at [35]http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ >>> scribe/ >>> >>> [35] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/ >>> >>> Guessing input format: RRSAgent_Text_Format (score 1.00) >>> >>> Succeeded: s/minimun/minimum/ >>> Succeeded: s/[last name?]/Brewer/ >>> Found ScribeNick: julie >>> Inferring Scribes: julie >>> >>> WARNING: No "Topic:" lines found. >>> >>> >>> WARNING: No "Present: ... 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