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<trackbot> Date: 27 February 2013
<scribe> ScribeNick: fjh
fjh: No announcements
Draft minutes from 20 February 2013 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2013Feb/att-0088/minutes-2013-02-20.html
fjh: josh will send out revised version with some minor editorial corrections, removal of bad action requests etc, we can approve next week
fjh: have spoken with James and Mounir about WebIntents, they plan to work on this later in March with Greg so we will hopefully have more to work with soon
... this timing could work out for a June F2F, giving us some time to work on the list before a F2F
... I think it also makes sense to keep the work in the Task Force, which is DAP and WebApps, for a variety of reasons
... also expect timing is good for June F2F with goal of moving Battery and Vibration to PR and also moving Proximity and Light forward (if not before)
... SysApps WG is having F2F 9-11 April in Madrid so June works for any follow up in DAP if needed
... need to check that Dom is available on dates, doing that now
re-opened ACTION-591 in conjunction with Web Intents work
ACTION-591?
<trackbot> ACTION-591 -- Greg Billock to work with Mounir and James to create new webintents draft that reflects web activities and issues -- due 2013-03-29 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/591
<Cathy> Should we set up a questionnaire to fix the June date first?
fjh: Diana can you please ask about holding rooms or another week, so I can check with Dom
<scribe> ACTION: fjh to set up f2f questionnaire [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/02/27-dap-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-617 - Set up f2f questionnaire [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2013-03-06].
<dcheng3> Yes, will do.
fjh: we need to decide regarding TPAC soonish due to visa etc for China
... might not need a F2F at TPAC depending on status of work
TPAC 2013: Nov 18-22 in Shenzhen - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2013Jan/0095.html
fjh: need to determine cut off date for TPAC decision
plan for updates and then publication of updated WD
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2013Feb/0090.html
richt: plan to work on this now and next week, and then do pubrules so this should take a couple of weeks
<cathy> my comments are on the list
Additional updates, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2013Feb/0075.html (Anssi)
Test status update, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2013Feb/0079.html (Anssi)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2013Feb/0086.html
anssik: modernized specification by getting rid of unnecessary attribute sections from DOM style specs, integrated in prose
<AnssiK> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/dap/rev/80120ce78810
anssik: minor section 5 prose updates to align with HTML5 spec, added navigator terminology
... easier to review to scroll down to the source
... mounir updated tests, I updated IDL harness tests accordingly, thanks to Boris and others, is in good shape, only one failing test case
... that requires WebIDL update
... please review the spec and test suite
... Giri had action to add new test cases
fjh: perhaps you can update status section now as well, I can provide text
<scribe> ACTION: fjh to provide sotd text for battery, vibration status updates [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/02/27-dap-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-618 - Provide sotd text for battery, vibration status updates [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2013-03-06].
RESOLUTION: Cancel 1 May teleconference
<AnssiK> we should try to close HTML Media Capture LC comments LC-2637, LC-2638, and LC-2639: https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/43696/WD-html-media-capture-20120712/doc/
anssik: remaining comments from Doug
<scribe> ACTION: fjh to follow up with Doug re closing HTML Media Capture LC Comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/02/27-dap-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-619 - Follow up with Doug re closing HTML Media Capture LC Comments [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2013-03-06].
<AnssiK> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17879
fjh: contacted Doug earlier, have waited regarding contacting again since I know he was busy with W3Conf
<AnssiK> the HTML tracker entry has discussion on potentially integrating the capture attribute in the HTML spec
fjh: do not want to create unnecessary dependencies that keep us from progressing work, so we can move this spec forward without preventing adoption at any time
anssik: what is the next step once we close LC comments, should we go to CR or wait for implementations
fjh: call for implementations is appropriate once we are clear on exit criteria
anssik: for testing we will need manual tests which will require working with implementers
fjh: are you working on the test cases
anssik: yes
fjh: we need to be clear on the nature of these tests and careful about defining exit criteria before going to CR
josh_soref: I am working on getting a device to Anssi
anssik: received an email today, thanks much
fjh: who will you be able to work with on testing for HTML Media Capture
anssik: mounir or other person from Mozilla or other WebKit people like Adam Barth
fjh: if you can start on testing as we work toward getting to CR that would help make sure the exit criteria are good
action-446?
<trackbot> ACTION-446 -- Frederick Hirsch to review security issue http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Aug/0006.html -- due 2011-08-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/446
fjh: not sure this relevant any more, will review to see whether to close
ACTION-474?
<trackbot> ACTION-474 -- Adrian Bateman to make a proposal for Network Information API -- due 2012-10-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/474
fjh: will check with Adrian
anssik: did he address at F2F
fjh: I think he said there was more to do
action-523?
<trackbot> ACTION-523 -- Anssi Kostiainen to work on test cases for battery and vibration -- due 2012-08-31 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/523
action-523: add HTML Media capture testing to the list
<trackbot> Notes added to ACTION-523 Work on test cases for battery and vibration.
ACTION-565?
<trackbot> ACTION-565 -- Josh Soref to propose text for HTML Media Capture to allow for alternative capture device if specified device not available -- due 2012-08-22 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/565
fjh: josh is checking on whether this is still relevant
josh_soref: yes
ACTION-613?
<trackbot> ACTION-613 -- Frederick Hirsch to draft proposed OMA liaison response -- due 2013-02-13 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/613
fjh: I believe we can close this with no more action given list discussion
close ACTION-613
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-613 Draft proposed OMA liaison response.
fjh: will close pending actions
close ACTION-614
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-614 Check with richt re network service discovery API updates and WD publication.
close ACTION-615
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-615 check with DOM that CR to PR status still ok despite Battery update by member:Mounir.
ACTION-616?
<trackbot> ACTION-616 -- Frederick Hirsch to send message to Niklas re ACTION-592 then close -- due 2013-02-27 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/616
fjh: Niklas has confirmed this should be closed, no resources to work on this
close ACTION-616
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-616 Send message to Niklas re ACTION-592 then close.
ISSUE-127?
<trackbot> ISSUE-127 -- Status section of Battery CR draft should include exit criteria and at-risk items -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/127
fjh: discussed earlier today, I will provide text to Anssi
ISSUE-128?
<trackbot> ISSUE-128 -- Need more description on how bandwidth should be estimated -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/128
fjh: relevant, is anyone working on this?
... topic for list and future agenda
Thanks to everyone for comments on Network Service Discovery
thanks to editors for all the work
no other business noted