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<trackbot> Date: 31 March 2010
<Claes> +04610801 is Claes
I can do it
<dom> Scribe: AnssiK
<dom> ScribeNick: AnssiK
darobin: Thomas wants to make an announcement
<fjh> thomas notes planned call for participation for w3c workshop on privacy for web apis
tlr: lots of conversation around privacy and security topics in Geolocation WG, academic papers, TAG etc.
... we should pull those conversations together in a one place, in a workshop in June-early July
... if you're interested please attend, think about a position paper
... dates to be confirmed soon
... any questions?
... feel free to send email to tlr around this as well
... an email will be sent to relevant WGs once the details have been worked out
... details will be known at least 8 weeks prior to the workshop
darobin: any questions?
fh: mentions DAP f2f
fh: takes a look at the results of the questionnaire
<fjh> Week of July 12-16 in London
<fjh> Week of July 19-23 in Helsinki
AnssiK: which weekdays?
<Zakim> dom, you wanted to say people had two weeks to respond, proposes we should pick a date today
fjh: probably Tue-Thu
<fjh> suggest Tue-Thur, midweek, regardless of date
tlr: we could put together the DAP f2f and privacy & security workshop?
... or align them back to back
darobin: privacy workshop would be 1-2 days
... rough estimate at the moment
<fjh> advantage of having privacy workshop in advance, feed into DAP
<fjh> could be advance with time between
darobin: Mon-Tue for privacy workshop continued with two days of DAP?
<tlr> also, note that I'm not committing to colocating at this point
fjh: does not know whether we can wait until July for privacy workshop
<dom> alissa: concurs that we should have a couple of weeks between the workshop and the F2F
alissa: agrees that couple of weeks between the workshop and the DAP f2f would make sense
<fjh> suggest we need a few weeks between workshop and dap f2f, to give time to process
fjh: most DAP people are in Europe so London seems like an ideal location for F2F
dom: not sure if we'll get many more answers to the questionnaire, the questionnaire is already closed :)
<fjh> my preference is to decide today
dom: we have 23 answers already
... not sure if extending for one week is beneficial
... we may not get many more answers anyway
<fjh> Week of July 12-16 in London
fjh: I'd prefer we decide as soon as possible
<dom> (Tue to Thu would make July 13-15)
alissa: privacy workshop should be a week before that?
tlr: not quite sure if can commit to that
<fjh> proposed RESOLUTION: 13-15 July in London for DAP F2F
<fjh> proposed RESOLUTION: 13-15 July in London for DAP F2F, with potential change to 14-16 if privacy workshop that week
tlr: cannot commit on resolution at this point, as it depends on hosting, bandwidth, conflicts etc.
RESOLUTION: 13-15 July in London for DAP F2F, with potential change to 14-16 if privacy workshop that week
<fjh> media annotation review
darobin: I've provided some feedback
<fjh> Robin notes wg is updating doc, so wait with review until new draft
fjh: at f2f we had 3 days of minutes
<dom> ACTION: Dom to check who can host London F2F [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-dap-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-151 - Check who can host London F2F [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2010-04-07].
fjh: any objections for approval?
<fjh> proposed RESOLUTION: Minutes from 16-18 March 2010 F2F approved.
RESOLUTION: Minutes from 16-18 March 2010 F2F approved.
fjh: a bunch of editorial updates have been made
... Laura and Paddy will do some updates next
... added some references
... the plan was to merge material from Nokia's contribution e.g. on trust domains
LauraA: not sure how to merge BONDI and Nokia contributions
... asking for comments how to proceed with the merge
fjh: suggest adding Nokia contributions, LauraA (and Paddy?) will commit BONDI parts
<trackbot> ACTION-110 -- David Rogers to lead the merging of Bondi/Nokia policy docs -- due 2010-03-23 -- OPEN
fjh: haven't yet looked at merging the contributions myself
<fjh> ACTION: laura to edit policy framework, reviewing BONDI material and editorial update [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-dap-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-152 - Edit policy framework, reviewing BONDI material and editorial update [on Laura Arribas - due 2010-04-07].
<LauraA> I will continue updating the policy document,
<fjh> after next week Laura will work on merging Nokia material into framework document
<LauraA> ...first based on BONDI input, and then merging Nokia's submission
fjh: Alissa and John are reviewing the material
... we could write a book on the topic, so we should narrow down to API scope
alissa: I'll streamline the material, to make it aligned with the F2F discussions
... I'll do it before the call next week
fjh: let's hold FPWD for alissa's contributions
<fjh> ACTION: alissa to refine privacy requirements (with John) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-dap-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-153 - Refine privacy requirements (with John) [on Alissa Cooper - due 2010-04-07].
<fjh> next week
<fjh> Policy builder tool and policy example
<fjh> Contacts API in Mozilla Labs
fjh: summarizes the above mails sent to the ML
<fjh> Privacy by Design
fjh: concept of "privacy by design" is kind of a buzzword, EU is mandating something ..
... thinks we're doing the right this, i.e. address what we can
alissa: thinks we're on the right track
... the concept of privacy by design has been there for a while
darobin: I18N provided feedback to calendaring
darobin: contains comments on timezones
<fjh> "working with time zones" http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Mar/0207.html
<trackbot> ACTION-128 -- Robin Berjon to contact I18N about other potential calendaring issues -- due 2010-03-24 -- CLOSED
richt: a difficult program, may make time to organize
richt: not sure what the actions are to get to the resolution
<fjh> robin notes that store internally in gregorian but have enumeration to indicate calendar in use
<fjh> robin notes this was outcome of f2f
richt: scale attribute type of DOMString discussed
<richt> attribute would be "attribute DOMString? scale;" on CalendarEventProperties or TimezonedDate
richt: will look at committing latest changes soon
darobin: HTML5 <time> may introduce timezone information
... will send information to the ML
richt: scale is about I18N
darobin: richt, did you find some timezone information in the HTML5 spec?
richt: not sure
darobin: no pub yet
darobin: has been discussed on WebApps ML
... input type=saveas may not be an ideal solution as per feedback
<trackbot> ACTION-126 -- Robin Berjon to modify FileWriter to add the saveFile() method -- due 2010-03-24 -- OPEN
<alissa> having phone problems, I am 202
<alissa> will reconnect
darobin: may be good enough for FPWD with an issue to document the saveas discussion
... any objections to publishing FPWD after adding an issue
dom: if an issue on type=saveas is highlighted ok to publish
richt: the use of type=saveas would introduce drastic changes
darobin: not really, just altering the API entry points
... most stuff would remain the same
... initially we discussed the topic, Eric the author was not happy with a fully programmatic API
... would be a good idea to put the draft out for feedback on also this entrypoint topic
... any objections for FPWD?
<fjh> publish early and often.
darobin: no objects, will prepare for FPWD
darobin: not many updates since F2F
dom: no actions closed after F2F yet
darobin: asking if Daniel can close actions by next week
danielcoloma: will do
darobin: AFAICT all the changes suggested in the F2F have been implemented
... ilkkao also sent a message it has been updated
<fjh> Draft updated http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Mar/0226.html
darobin: any objections to proceed to FPWD?
<dom> ACTION: Robin to prepare Capture for FPWD [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-dap-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-154 - Prepare Capture for FPWD [on Robin Berjon - due 2010-04-07].
RESOLUTION: FPWD for Capture API and File Writer API
<dom> ACTION: Robin to prepare FileWriter for FPWD [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-dap-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-155 - Prepare FileWriter for FPWD [on Robin Berjon - due 2010-04-07].
<dom> ACTION: Dom to request transition of FileWriter and Capture to FPWD [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/03/31-dap-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-156 - Request transition of FileWriter and Capture to FPWD [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2010-04-07].
fjh: mentions API checklist in the wiki
darobin: checklist is mainly for LC
... everyone is free to contribute to the checklist
<balaji> Thanks. Bye
<wonsuk> Thanks, Bye