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Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: changes to sysinfo (was Fwd: Agenda - Distributed Meeting 2010-06-23)

From: James Salsman <jsalsman@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:19:29 -0700
Message-ID: <AANLkTinW74JQUalZV2cT4hpNhzphcb3vb16TYHxh7I8x@mail.gmail.com>
To: "SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)" <BS3131@att.com>
Cc: James Salsman <jsalsman@talknicer.com>, public-device-apis@w3.org, "Tran, Dzung D" <dzung.d.tran@intel.com>
I hope the chairs will ask the group if any of the eight aspects of service
quality are inappropriate for determining active and current preferred
connections,and whether I left any other aspects out.

On Jun 29, 2010 3:15 PM, "SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)" <BS3131@att.com>
wrote:

 James,



In order to keep discussions focused and to reach to a conclusion in a
timely manner it’s not pragmatic to address “any aspect” in “any
discussion”. Of the topics you mention, QoS is addressed in
activeConnections through the bandwidth attributes. But I fail to see what
other quality-related aspects could be usefully derived from a discussion of
net neutrality or privacy characteristics in this context (which is limited
to specifically, knowing what data connections are active). I’m not
suggesting that you be prevented from discussing your ideas (I don’t have
that power anyway): I just don’t see where it can usefully go in the scope
of this discussion.



Expectation of service charges (e.g. “advice of charge”) related to a data
connection is a complex topic which depends upon information that is
unavailable to the user’s device (e.g. for PLMNs, the type of service plan
the user is subscribed to, the charging for the specific application within
that service plan, roaming state, etc). The same goes for other types of
networks (e.g. the device will not know if I am using a WiFi connection that
is charged at an hourly rate). As far as I know there is no standard whereby
this information can be interoperably obtained in order to be rolled up into
some “cost of using this network connection” measure (e.g. in terms of
speed, delay, jitter, risk).





Thanks,

Bryan Sullivan | AT&T



*From:* James Salsman [mailto:jsalsman@gmail.com]
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To: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L (ATTCINW)
Cc: James Salsman; public-device-apis@w3.org; Tran, Dzung D
*Subject:* Re: RE: RE: RE: changes to sysinfo (was Fwd: Agenda - Distributed
Meeting 2010-06-23)





Bryan,

Where in the charter or otherwise does it say that any aspect of service
quality which ...
Received on Tuesday, 29 June 2010 22:20:01 GMT

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