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Re: <device> proposal (for video conferencing, etc)

From: Dave Burke <daveburke@google.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 08:34:02 +0000
Message-ID: <6e608abf1001100034i14e1fcd1x82b7717b84872861@mail.gmail.com>
To: Nick Lothian <nlothian@educationau.edu.au>
Cc: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, Andrei Popescu <andreip@google.com>, Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com>, "public-device-apis@w3.org" <public-device-apis@w3.org>, Ben Murdoch <benm@google.com>
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:58 PM, Nick Lothian
<nlothian@educationau.edu.au>wrote:

> > >
> > > Do you consider the client-to-client protocol to be in scope at the
> > > moment, or is that far-future work?
> >
> > I don't know. If we do introduce a client-to-client protocol, I'd
> > imagine
> > we'd want to reuse an existing one, so that we don't have to resolve
> > all
> > the NAT traversal issues. (Simplicity wouldn't be as high a priority in
> > this case as in the client-server case, since we'd expect far fewer
> > independent implementations, so there'd be less to gain by developing a
> > whole new protocol than there was with, e.g., Web Sockets.) I'm not
> > familiar with existing protocols for this, though.
> >
>
>
> SIP's probably the "standard" protocol for this.
>

Couldn't the Webapp simply replace the rendezvous functionality of SIP? A
mechanism along the lines of RTMFP seems valuable though note the JS
callback would need to know the media address/port information to relay to
the other end. But of course things are now getting complex. The Webapp
would need to handle NAT traversal issues, codec negotiation, potentially
transcoding, reliability reports, etc.

>
> Jingle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingle_(protocol)<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingle_%28protocol%29>) is also interesting
>
> Flash v10 implements RTMFP (
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Time_Media_Flow_Protocol), but this
> seems to be video specific (and if HTML was to support something it should
> allow anything to be transferred)
>

Nick
>
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