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Re: Seeking Clarification of Patent Licensing Commitments for BONDI APIs [was: Re: Early comparison of Nokia/BONDI APIs]

From: Arthur Barstow <Art.Barstow@nokia.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:00:56 -0400
Message-Id: <AA69775E-B988-432A-8059-D29DFC2037EE@nokia.com>
Cc: "Hirsch Frederick (Nokia-CIC/Boston)" <Frederick.Hirsch@nokia.com>, ext Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>, public-device-apis <public-device-apis@w3.org>
To: Rigo Wenning <rigo@w3.org>, ext David Rogers <david.rogers@omtp.org>, stefan@engel-flechsig.de

On Jul 30, 2009, at 4:14 PM, ext David Rogers wrote:

> BONDI has previously been submitted to both the WebApps group and this
> group. When the contribution was made here, I don't believe either
> Nokia, OMTP or any other company were members of the working group  
> - it
> didn't exist. I clearly understand the point you are driving at -
> however the DAP group is still being formed and I think perhaps your
> concerns are overstated. We have an existing legal framework which is
> working - the Turin rules. Please can you clearly outline your  
> concerns?

The WebApps WG isn't a concern here because, as far as I know, 100%  
of the BONDI participants are official members of WebApps, thus the  
Turin Rules are not relevant (for all practical purposes) for this WG.

However, in the case of DAP, it appears that, at least at the moment,  
the rate of overlap is less. Given this, for transparency reasons, I  
again ask for a list of contributors to the inputs submitted to DAP.

Rigo, Stefan - would you please clarify: what, if any, patent  
commitments a Turin Rule signer has if they contributed to a BONDI  
API but do not join the DAP WG. In particular, will all contributions  
from such members be bound to the W3C Royalty-Free (RF) Licensing  
Requirements [2] if their contribution is included a Recommendation?

-Regards, Art Barstow

[1] http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy-20040205/#sec- 

> Thanks,
> David.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arthur Barstow [mailto:Art.Barstow@nokia.com]
> Sent: 30 July 2009 19:50
> To: David Rogers; Rigo Wenning
> Cc: Hirsch Frederick (Nokia-CIC/Boston); ext Dominique Hazael- 
> Massieux;
> public-device-apis; stefan@engel-flechsig.de
> Subject: Re: Seeking Clarification of Patent Licensing Commitments for
> BONDI APIs [was: Re: Early comparison of Nokia/BONDI APIs]
> David, All,
> On Jul 30, 2009, at 2:03 PM, ext David Rogers wrote:
>> The Turin Rules[1] require that all BONDI members and contributors
>> make
>> and abide by the W3C Royalty Free commitments either as members or
>> non-members. The contribution that we have submitted as OMTP
>> Limited is
>> on behalf of the entire membership and their intent that the work be
>> submitted under those terms.
> Your use of "entire membership" here implies every OMTP member is a
> member of BONDI and consequently, every OMTP member has agreed to the
> Turin Rules for these DAP WG inputs. Is this true?
> Also, there appear to be members of OTMP/BONDI that are not members
> of the DAP WG [1] (e.g. Ericsson, Ikivo). Would you please confirm
> the difference list i.e. which OMTP/BONDI members contributed to the
> inputs submitted to the DAP WG but are not a member of DAP?
> -Regards, Art Barstow
> [1] http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/43696/status
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