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Re: Preliminary feedback, comments on multicol tests

From: Øyvind Stenhaug <oyvinds@opera.com>
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 16:51:05 +0200
To: "Public CSS test suite mailing list" <public-css-testsuite@w3.org>, Gérard Talbot <css21testsuite@gtalbot.org>
Cc: Håkon Wium Lie <howcome@opera.com>
Message-ID: <op.weeovfpvbunlto@oyvinds-desktop>
On Tue, 15 May 2012 21:37:07 +0200, Gérard Talbot  
<css21testsuite@gtalbot.org> wrote:

> http://test.csswg.org/suites/css3-multicol/nightly-unstable/html4/containing-001.htm
> line 10 div {
> 	font-family: ahem;
> 	font-size: 1em;
> 	line-height: 1em;
> Issue 1
> -------
> Font-size will compute to 16px which is not ideal, not good for creating
> an associated reftest... because not dividable by 5px.
> It must be said here that reftests, by definition [1], should be using
> different features, different methods of achieving layout in order to
> reduce risks of false positives.

In this case, the test uses 'column-count' and 'column-gap', while the  
reference uses absolute positioning for the "columns".

> If computed font-size when using Ahem
> font is not dividable by 5px, then accurate, reliable baseline alignment
> positioning is not garanteed, is not good.

Baseline alignment isn't being tested here. I don't see how it would make  
any noticable difference.

I could of course ask the original author to modify the font-size, or I or  
someone else could do it directly. Personally I would prefer to focus on  
the more serious issues first.

> Issue 2
> -------
> line 19	widows: 1;
> 	orphans: 1;
> I do not understand why widows and orphans have to be specified: is
> there a need to use, specify 1?

In this case it doesn't look like it's necessary.

> If/Assuming these declarations are
> needed, then shouldn't the test be flagged as paged?

The "paged" flag means "Only valid for paged media". I believe there is  
one or more case where such declarations *are* needed, to allow for column  
breaking after the first line and/or before the last line of a block. That  
doesn't mean the tests aren't valid for non-paged media.

(The value of the "Media" line in CSS 2.1 for these properties is "visual,  
paged", whereas css3-page has just "visual". As discussed on www-style,  
these lines are not normative anyway.)

Øyvind Stenhaug
Core Norway, Opera Software ASA
Received on Wednesday, 16 May 2012 14:53:46 UTC

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