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Re: content-158 and content-159

From: Gérard Talbot <css21testsuite@gtalbot.org>
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:03:21 -0700
Message-ID: <12e77e1040ff860048bb82e89e57e774.squirrel@cp3.shieldhost.com>
To: "Ă˜yvind Stenhaug" <oyvinds@opera.com>
Cc: "public-css-testsuite@w3.org" <public-css-testsuite@w3.org>, "Arron Eicholz" <Arron.Eicholz@microsoft.com>

> http://test.csswg.org/suites/css2.1/20101001/html4/content-158.htm
> http://test.csswg.org/suites/css2.1/20101001/html4/content-159.htm
> (Author: Microsoft)
>

Hello Řyvind,

> These assume that the initial value of 'quotes' (which per spec "depends
> on user agent") has an apostrophe (U+0027) as opening quote for the
> second
> quoting level.


The initial value of quotes for second quoting level depends on the
language and common editorial convention for such language, as far as I
can say. Information gathered from wikipedia backs this up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation_mark,_non-English_usage#Overview

Also
Language Specific Quoting and Quotation Marks
http://www.witch.westfalen.de/csstest/quotes/quotes.html
from Jutta Wrage
(extensive coverage
http://www.witch.westfalen.de/csstest/quotes/ )

The CSS 2.1 spec gave this as an example:

q:lang(en) { quotes: '"' '"' "'" "'" }
in CSS 2.1, section 12.3.1
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/generate.html#quotes-specify

and the exact same quotes are used in an example in
HTML 4.01, section 9.2.2.1
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/text.html#h-9.2.2.1

as follows:

{
  John said, "I saw Lucy at lunch, she told me 'Mary wants you
  to get some ice cream on your way home.' I think I will get some
  at Ben and Jerry's, on Gloucester Road."
}
with lang attribute explicitly identified as english.




> Additionally, content-159 assumes a pair of quotation
> marks
> (U+0022) for the first quoting level.

This (&quot; or &#34;) is what is preferred for first quote level in
english.

I think that this should be part of the assumed conditions (common
assumptions) of the test suite:

http://test.csswg.org/suites/css2.1/20101001/#common


+CC: Arron Eicholz

regards, Gérard
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