- From: <kimdhamilton@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 21:38:15 -0700
- To: Credentials CG <public-credentials@w3.org>
Thanks to for scribing this week! The minutes for this week's Credentials CG telecon are now available: https://w3c-ccg.github.io/meetings/2019-06-18/ Full text of the discussion follows for W3C archival purposes. Audio from the meeting is available as well (link provided below). ---------------------------------------------------------------- Credentials CG Telecon Minutes for 2019-06-18 Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-credentials/2019Jun/0032.html Topics: 1. Introductions and Reintroductions 2. Announcements and reminders 3. Action Items 4. Work item repair Organizer: Christopher Allen and Joe Andrieu and Kim Hamilton Duffy Scribe: Present: Kim Hamilton Duffy, Christopher Allen, Ted Thibodeau, Joe Andrieu, Vaughan Emery, Kayode Ezike, Heather Vescent, Moses Ma, Markus Sabadello, Jeff Orgel, James Anderson, Drummond Reed, Dave Longley, Jonathan Holt Audio: https://w3c-ccg.github.io/meetings/2019-06-18/audio.ogg Vaughan Emery: Present + Joe Andrieu: Introductions and reintroductions [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Markus Sabadello: Intro: James from ..? Topic: Introductions and Reintroductions Markus Sabadello: Intro: Daniel (?) from Workday James Anderson: I do Cyber and Identity Strategy [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Markus Sabadello: Reintroduction: kimhd Kim Hamilton Duffy: Co-chair of CCG, steering committee of Decentralized Identity Foundation (DIF), board of Rebooting-the-web-of-Trust [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Kim Hamilton Duffy: Working at MIT on a credentialing scheme, based on standards and principles of this group [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Kim Hamilton Duffy: In the past, created blockcerts, earlier version of the standards we're discussing here [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Topic: Announcements and reminders Joe Andrieu: Regular call to work on DID Spec work every Thursday [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Markus Sabadello: Meeting page: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qYBaXQMUoB86Alquu7WBtWOxsS8SMhp1fioYKEGCabE/ Joe Andrieu: Next Rebooting-the-web-of-trust will be in Prague [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Markus Sabadello: https://www.meetup.com/Vienna-Digital-Identity-Meetup/events/262359964/ Markus Sabadello: Planning pre-RWoT meetup page in Vienna Sep 1 to meet local Austrian identity community [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: TPAC 2019 is Sep 16-20 in Fukuoka, Japan [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: CCG chairs probably will not make it there, but we're planning a DID WG meeting [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Topic: Action Items Joe Andrieu: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/community/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3A%22action%3A+review+next%22 Kim Hamilton Duffy: #44 And #43, issues around security model / threat model of DIDs, requesting clarity on correlation [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Christopher Allen: +1 Kim Hamilton Duffy: Have been lingering for a while... if no progress soon: propose to turn them into DID spec issues so they can be addressed in the DID WG [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Christopher Allen: Maybe use new GitHub move issue feature. Kim Hamilton Duffy: I.e. close them in a week or so [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Kim Hamilton Duffy: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/did-wg-charter/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3A%22help+wanted%22 Kim Hamilton Duffy: We've been having breakout sessions to work on DID WG charter, triage issues [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Kim Hamilton Duffy: Closed about half of the issues (many editorial), still some remaining [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Kim Hamilton Duffy: This is a good opportunity to get involved! [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Kim Hamilton Duffy: If you want to help, click on above link to see the issues and feel free to contribute. Ask kimhd if you have any questions. [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Kim Hamilton Duffy: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/community/issues/80 Kim Hamilton Duffy: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/community/blob/master/work_items.md Kim Hamilton Duffy: This is our list of work items [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Kim Hamilton Duffy: Both ongoing and completed ones. [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Kim Hamilton Duffy: We try to capture the efforts the group has done historically, so we can look and find historical work items. [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Kim Hamilton Duffy: You can help here too, help to update the list [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/community/issues/45 Topic: Work item repair Joe Andrieu: We identified 5 work items in that issue, what's the current status? [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Christopher Allen: These work items were approved in previous meetings, but we don't have solid progress or editors or idea where things are going [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Christopher Allen: We'd like to get an idea if we continue to put time into these [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Kim Hamilton Duffy: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/community/blob/master/work_items.md Kim Hamilton Duffy: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/community/blob/master/work_items.md may be a better resource right now than https://github.com/w3c-ccg/community/issues/45 [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: Let's go over those 5 issues, have been in unchanged state for 6 months [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: Item 1: DID Engagement spreadsheet, there should be a Google doc, not sure where [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: Ah... there is a URL. the first link in the table. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZDHH1p4EBjxVqQJyO07gWOowhrsW2hrkRH2kgNzt0y0/edit#gid=1477995692 Christopher Allen: Suggest we try to find a new editor for this [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Christopher Allen: Idea of this work: Who and where and how do various parties use DIDs? [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Christopher Allen: Get an inventory of things; if we can't find an editor, we should close [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: Will reach out to see if someone is interested to move this along. [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: Volunteers? [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: Item 2: Digital Verification Specifications [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Christopher Allen: This is a separate task force, haven't done a great job keeping track of status [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Christopher Allen: Perhaps we should move this and list it as a "Draft Note", or other work item path, and officially list it [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Christopher Allen: Has reached some level of completion, may be close to final [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/credential-handler-api/ Joe Andrieu: https://github.com/digitalbazaar/credential-handler-polyfill Christopher Allen: Item 3: Credential Handler API and Polyfill [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: This was developed by dlongley et al. at Digital Bazaar [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: Will reach out via email to check on status [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Heather Vescent: Dave Longley is joining momentarily Christopher Allen: I know some people are working on updating RSA and secp256k1 digital verification specs [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Markus Sabadello: Are we talking about this? https://w3c-ccg.github.io/ld-cryptosuite-registry/ Christopher Allen: There's been some work on reconciling names [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Christopher Allen: Where are the specs for these? [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Markus Sabadello: We've known for a while this needs work. [scribe assist by Joe Andrieu] Joe Andrieu: ... We've done an update recently where we introduce ecda secp2561, but still need the specification written Joe Andrieu: ... The implementations here are various. Joe Andrieu: ... Agree with Christopher that how it works right now, process-wise needs work Markus Sabadello: Recently we just added "EcdsaSecp256k1Signature2019" (with no complete spec), simply to get alignment on Bitcoin-based and Ethereum-based DID methods Joe Andrieu: Where are we with Credential Handler API? [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Dave Longley: Spec is under CCG right now, right? People are implementing against the spec. But the spec needs to be updated and re-published. [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Dave Longley: Are planning to put more effort into updating this over the summer. [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: Is the polyfill also under CCG or under Digital Bazaar? [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Dave Longley: Digital Bazaar, since that's an implementation (open source) [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Christopher Allen: This is a spec, but is it planning for a concrete WG to take this on? [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Dave Longley: Not at the moment, way forward would be for more implementations to happen against that spec, to build up ecosystem around it [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Dave Longley: Then in the future it would go into WG for browsers to implement. [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Christopher Allen: Could it be on a "Commentary" track right now? so it can be listed as a Community Report? [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: Longer term, where would it go? [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Dave Longley: Long term: Move it into WG (similar to what Web Payments did: first CG, then WG, then implemented in browsers) [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: Sounds like "specification" track, not "commentary" [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Christopher Allen: Right [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: How does this interface with other related efforts, e.g. the various flavors of DID Auth that are happening [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Dave Longley: This API can be used to do DID Auth [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Dave Longley: Some politics around when is the right time.. Need broader support by people who implement. Want to make sure it remains generic and open [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Christopher Allen: Perhaps we should include another editor added, from another community that supports this work [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Christopher Allen: Should add it into CCG Github, then publish it as a draft report, with versioning [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Dave Longley: https://w3c-ccg.github.io/credential-handler-api/ Dave Longley: It's in Respec format and published in CCG [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Markus Sabadello: ( JoeAndrieu lost audio... ) Christopher Allen: Before major next revision, can an editor be added [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: Shoot. I'll call back in Dave Longley: Propose by the end of the summer to find editor and publish next version [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: Continue with work items https://github.com/w3c-ccg/community/issues/45 [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: Item 5: Engagement Model [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: This document is mostly written as RWoT paper, but needs to be converted to Respec format [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: Any volunteers to help with Respec format? Then we can publish it as a Note. [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Kim Hamilton Duffy: BillB has taken action item to look into automatical spec text conversion tools. [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Kim Hamilton Duffy: Hope we can batch-convert documents (try with a few test cases) [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Kim Hamilton Duffy: If anyone wants to help with spec text, that would be great [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Markus Sabadello: Ajones_DB: Regarding Respec, we have templates we have been using internally Markus Sabadello: Ajones_DB: Programmatically generate results of test frameworks Heather Vescent: Rock on Andrew! Markus Sabadello: Ajones_DB: Perhaps our tools have something in common that we can use Markus Sabadello: Ajones_DB: It's a Handlebars template, produces Respec document from Mocha (?) test results Kim Hamilton Duffy: Sounds good, please share [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Drummond Reed: Must leave the call early, but this is all good news about ReSpec tools. https://github.com/w3c-dvcg/http-signatures-test-suite/tree/add-template-reporter/implementations This code is a little out of date But basically a custom mocha reporter outputs a json file which is then used by handlebars.js Kim Hamilton Duffy: Let's sync up with ajones_DB and BillB to see which tools we can use for Respec conversion [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: Let's look at proposed new work items [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/community/labels/proposed%20work%20items Kim Hamilton Duffy: Here is the issue tracking the conversion tool: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/community/issues/76 Kim Hamilton Duffy: It links to the conversion tool Joe Andrieu: 4 Work items which have been proposed but not yet accepted [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Christopher Allen: Let's talk about #71 OpenPgpSignature2019 [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Christopher Allen: This is another proposed new cryptographic suite [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Ted Thibodeau: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/community/issues/71 Joe Andrieu: This was proposed before we had simplified work items [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: @OR13 hasn't found a 2nd editor; this could be an "informal" work item, we don't need to officially approve it [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: We should support it and accept as an "informal work item". What exactly does this entail? [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Christopher Allen: Without 2nd editor, it doesn't qualify as official work item. So we should close and invite to resubmit when there is a 2nd editor. [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: But still, how can we support "informal" work items? Perhaps give them a chance to introduce it as part of the agenda of weekly CCG call? [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Christopher Allen: My advice is, once it's more mature and has a 2nd editor, it should be officially announced. [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Christopher Allen: We can still list it as an adjacent resource, not everything has to be an "official" work item. [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Christopher Allen: Suggest to add it to https://w3c-ccg.github.io/ld-cryptosuite-registry/ [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Christopher Allen: Does anyone have proposed work items that should be discussed next week? [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Jonathan Holt: What's the process of getting something into the ld-cryptosuite-registry ? [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: https://w3c-ccg.github.io/ld-cryptosuite-registry/#the-registration-process Christopher Allen: Every registry will have requirements for how something gets into the registry [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: The ld-cryptosuite-registry has a brief section that explains this [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Joe Andrieu: Thank you all, cu next week [scribe assist by Markus Sabadello] Moses Ma: Bye everyone!
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