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Re: Payments activity - any point to our time and effort?

From: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 20:07:17 +0000
Cc: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>, W3C Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>
Message-Id: <0971C060-A494-440B-90A7-DACC2785BA58@bblfish.net>
To: Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>

> On 4 Mar 2016, at 20:03, Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 2016-03-04 20:12, Henry Story wrote:
>> How much does one actually need the browser vendors for this?
>> Can one not get a lot of this working with JS, sending credentials signed by some entity?
>> At least to start off with?
> 
> What would such a system be able to do that existing systems cannot or already do?

I suppose you'd find that in the use case document 

	http://opencreds.org/specs/source/use-cases/

A lot of people agreed that those features are not available. 

And as far as protocol integration goes what you want is to have a protocol that is
simple and well designed, so that a client can go to any server and use those credentials
in a standard way.

> 
> 99% of all payment innovation is happening on the App-side and that's a way bigger nut to crack.
> 
> Anders
> 
>> 
>> Henry
>> 
>> 
>>> On 4 Mar 2016, at 14:30, Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com <mailto:timothy.holborn@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've been reading this: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-payments-wg/2016Feb/0527.html
>>> 
>>> Is our work valuable at all or is this some sick joke that looks like Wall Street Execs vs. the concept of law and such things for the billions of other humans around the planet...?
>>> 
>>> After reading this, I have severe concerns about the viability of building anything meaningful here.
>>> 
>>> I think that should be made clear. W3C was established due to issues that emerged sometime ago. New issues threaten humanity as is influenced specifically by web standards. Their are a number of very troubling problems here, and I fully support Manu, who's work has brought all this together and to suggest otherwise is an act of horrific behaviour I very much doubt they'd want subject to accountability, as such,
>>> 
>>> What are we doing here?
>>> 
>>> Timh.
>> 
> 
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