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Re: Egypt joins Nigeria in using association branded national ID card

From: Adrian Hope-Bailie <adrian@hopebailie.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 13:15:58 +0200
Message-ID: <CA+eFz_LsPyB+WecmmrScukzDT-FP6G2SadG-o+HNbzq14J+e-Q@mail.gmail.com>
To: Erik Ros <mail@erikros.me>
Cc: W3C Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>, davidnicol@gmail.com
Hi Erik,

I think you meant to direct your comment to David?

I would agree with you and add the following from my personal position:

I live in a country where government tenders are almost always shrouded in
some level of controversy.
When an international commercial organisation is awarded (direct or
indirect) control of a government institution it makes me very nervous.
After the deal is done and the government ID running payment applications
that are subject to some commercial entity's rules it's very hard to go
back.

I would agree with David that having a government ID that is also a payment
instrument is an excellent synergy but would prefer that this was through
some government/central bank controlled (or better independant and
decentralized) proxy to the commercial payments providers.

Adrian


On 7 March 2015 at 00:15, Erik Ros <mail@erikros.me> wrote:

>  Dear Adrian,
>
> you ask why not, the answer to that would have to be:
>
> because it is a cluttering of power. We want power to be divided as
> equally as possible over as many people as possible (IMO).
>
> I would like take my remark to a broader point. I think the specifications
> that are being created should valour de-centrality (the primary success
> factor of the internet). We shouldn't need the government, or a credit card
> company to make and economic exchange.
>
> We could do without this dependency. Perhaps we should have open source
> exchange providers?..
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Erik
>
>
> On 06-03-15 21:10, David Nicol wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Adrian Hope-Bailie <adrian@hopebailie.com>
> wrote:
>
>>  I don't think this is a very encouraging trend:
>> http://www.finextra.com/news/fullstory.aspx?newsitemid=27066
>>
>
>  Why not? Aside from surveillance and monopoly concerns that are actually
> there even without making a government-issued ID card a payment instrument,
> it's excellent synergy. At least
>  its a bearer instrument and not a bar code tattoo!
>
>
>
> --
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