- From: Erik Ros <mail@erikros.me>
- Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2015 11:28:43 +0000
- To: Adrian Hope-Bailie <adrian@hopebailie.com>
- CC: W3C Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>, davidnicol@gmail.com
- Message-ID: <54FAE0EB.6070608@erikros.me>
Hi Adrian, indeed, my apologies for the confusion. I still fail to see the added value. What synergy is achieved? a synergy between government and big business? What is in it for the people? Perhaps some use cases could clarify? kind regards, Erik On 07-03-15 11:15, Adrian Hope-Bailie wrote: > Hi Erik, > > I think you meant to direct your comment to David? > > I would agree with you and add the following from my personal position: > > I live in a country where government tenders are almost always > shrouded in some level of controversy. > When an international commercial organisation is awarded (direct or > indirect) control of a government institution it makes me very nervous. > After the deal is done and the government ID running payment > applications that are subject to some commercial entity's rules it's > very hard to go back. > > I would agree with David that having a government ID that is also a > payment instrument is an excellent synergy but would prefer that this > was through some government/central bank controlled (or better > independant and decentralized) proxy to the commercial payments providers. > > Adrian > > > On 7 March 2015 at 00:15, Erik Ros <mail@erikros.me > <mailto:mail@erikros.me>> wrote: > > Dear Adrian, > > you ask why not, the answer to that would have to be: > > because it is a cluttering of power. We want power to be divided > as equally as possible over as many people as possible (IMO). > > I would like take my remark to a broader point. I think the > specifications that are being created should valour de-centrality > (the primary success factor of the internet). We shouldn't need > the government, or a credit card company to make and economic > exchange. > > We could do without this dependency. Perhaps we should have open > source exchange providers?.. > > Kind regards, > > Erik > > > On 06-03-15 21:10, David Nicol wrote: >> >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Adrian Hope-Bailie >> <adrian@hopebailie.com <mailto:adrian@hopebailie.com>> wrote: >> >> I don't think this is a very encouraging trend: >> http://www.finextra.com/news/fullstory.aspx?newsitemid=27066 >> >> >> Why not? Aside from surveillance and monopoly concerns that are >> actually there even without making a government-issued ID card a >> payment instrument, it's excellent synergy. At least >> its a bearer instrument and not a bar code tattoo! >> >> >> >> -- >> There is a lot more low hanging fruit when you're tall. > > -- > ========================= > -- Erik Ros -- > --+447979090626 <tel:%2B447979090626> -- > --mail@erikros.me <mailto:mail@erikros.me> -- > --http://erikros.me -- > -- @erikros_me -- > -- +ErikRos_ejfrme -- > ========================= > > -- ========================= -- Erik Ros -- -- +447979090626 -- -- mail@erikros.me -- -- http://erikros.me -- -- @erikros_me -- -- +ErikRos_ejfrme -- =========================
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