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- Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 12:44:37 -0400
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Thanks to Gregg Kellogg for scribing this week! The minutes for this week's Credentials CG telecon are now available: http://opencreds.org/minutes/2015-07-14/ Full text of the discussion follows for W3C archival purposes. Audio from the meeting is available as well (link provided below). ---------------------------------------------------------------- Credentials Community Group Telecon Minutes for 2015-07-14 Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-credentials/2015Jul/0015.html Topics: 1. Introduction to Brendan Benshoof 2. Recruiting 3. Producing Documents 4. Vision document 5. Use Cases 6. Capabilities 7. Roadmap Organizer: Manu Sporny Scribe: Gregg Kellogg Present: Gregg Kellogg, Manu Sporny, Brendan Benshoof, Nate Otto, Eric Korb, Matt Stone, Brian Sletten, Andrew Rosen, Rob Trainer, David I. Lehn, Laura Fowler, Sunny Lee Audio: http://opencreds.org/minutes/2015-07-14/audio.ogg Gregg Kellogg is scribing. Manu Sporny: Brendan is joining us today, intro later. Topic: Introduction to Brendan Benshoof Brendan Benshoof: I've not been able to join [scribe assist by Andrew Rosen] Brendan Benshoof: I’m a grad student at georga state university. I work on distributed hash tables and making them do things they weren’t intended for. … You have a black box labeled that, and I think I might be the one to remove the magic from it. Nate Otto: That would be cool if you could make some magic real, Brendan. Nice to meet you. Manu Sporny: We hang out on the #ipfs chanel, and a number of folks there are interested in decentralized hash tables and have been talking about stuff there for a while. … Hopefully, Blame will be able to join us and help us there, happy to have you! … That will help us have deeper discussions about decentralized identifiers. Topic: Recruiting Manu Sporny: I’ve been busy for the last week, but have been invited to speak at the Federal Reserve’s payment symposium. It’s an invite-only event with core-finanical folk.s … They’re specifically interested in W3C and credentials. That puts a lot of weight behind what we’re doing. … That would allow us to get more recruits in from govt and finanical services. Eric Korb: We’re working on a project with IMS global; we’re using the JSON-LD format for credentials to express an extended transcript. … We expect to demonstrate a prototype at “educause” in november. Nate Otto: EDUCAUSE conference in Indianapolis in October. … Mark Leuba is the chair of that at IMS Global. … That will come a multi-purpose issuer to sign such documents, and a spec for describing a transcript in JSON-LD. … This includes many open-source projects to describe this. … I’ve also been asked to talk to an IMS quarterly meeting on AUgust 17th. Manu Sporny: These are great opportunities, but a bit late for W3C’s needs. Eric Korb: I invited Credly to invite us, and will follow up. Manu Sporny: There’s a punch-list of about 100 W3C members that it would be great if you could help follow-up on. Nate Otto: I’ve talked with Concentric Sky, and we’re going to do a review and have an answer in a couple of days. … Badge Alliance is similar and should be able to give them an opinion shortly and hopefully get them to join. Matt Stone: I’ve started a discussion with some sales people on the aclaim team. Parson has several clients that might also be good fits. Manu Sporny: We may want to get some things produced while we’re waiting on recruiting. Topic: Producing Documents Brian Sletten: I have some time to work on docs. Manu Sporny: I think we need to get back to producing documents. We do need more recruiting, and we’re not there yet, but we have other things to do. … It’s going to be hard to convince W3C at the beginning of August without 15 more organizations. … We need 30-40 at a bare minimum. … We have 18 out of 47 right now. Manu Sporny: Here's the executive summary: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nq543-Am1hQUIZ2hhzAFl8KexvIEBwDDc_f3Ikz1opQ/edit … At the bottom is a simple form for them to fill out, or a verbal yes is fine too. Eric Korb: I just filled it out for Accreditrust. Nate Otto: Concentric Sky needs a technical review, and will decide after that. Topic: Vision document Manu Sporny: In the mean time, the folks not recrutiting can help on documents. Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/Payments/IG/Vision … We don’t have one yet, but the payments group’s could be a model. … The doc is a quick 1-2 page. Perhaps Accreditrust/Pearson could help with this, and it should be quick. Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/Payments/IG/Vision#web-principles Nate Otto: By take the lead on this document, you mean creating a "vision document" for credentials based on the template that the Web Payments IG has? … There’s a bit at the top: “Web Principles” that shouldn’t need to be re-stated. … Choice in where to store credentials, etc. Eric Korb: We can contribute. Matt Stone: I’d like to help too. Gregg Kellogg: I can help with ReSpec formatting, if you just have text. Manu Sporny: RichardVarn will also help. … Deadline, beginning of August. Nate Otto: Beginning of August is good. Brendan Benshoof: Pull requests are made for this Gregg Kellogg: We should put a skeleton ReSpec file in github [scribe assist by Manu Sporny] Gregg Kellogg: From practical experience, I find that working on feature branches for these types of things might work well. [scribe assist by Manu Sporny] Manu Sporny: What’s worked well is to work from a google-doc. At some point we’ll freeze it and move it over. Gregg Kellogg: That's fine - but Github is designed for this sort of collaboration - but I don't want that to be a barrier - google doc, emails, whatever works for people, I'll edit. [scribe assist by Manu Sporny] Nate Otto: +1 Open Credentials Manu Sporny: We’ve been talking about “Open Credentials”, but maybe “Web Credentials”, or just “Credentials”. Matt Stone: +1 Open Credentials Matt Stone: Or at least -1 Web Credentials :) Manu Sporny: Vision document is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y92W2FjGKb-ECrdXqtPk-nPzfGZ1FVGIVrtex9A437E/edit Manu Sporny: This is where the group keeps it specs: https://github.com/opencreds/website/tree/master/specs Topic: Use Cases Manu Sporny: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GySrTXAYpwa4vDPsGE3BMA42FwIAqAyLGigKuKUTGks/edit Brian Sletten: I’ll move it over to ReSpec in the opencreds repo. Manu Sporny: There are some comments to resolve. Brian Sletten: I’ll tak a pass at encorporating the comments. Topic: Capabilities Nate Otto: Thanks, bsletten -- feel free to ask me too if you have any questions on on of my comments. Manu Sporny: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webpayments/raw-file/default/latest/capabilities/index.html Manu Sporny: The WebPayments group came up with the concept of a “Web Payments Architecture”. … A credential system should be able to … (as basic capabilities). Manu Sporny: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webpayments/raw-file/default/latest/capabilities/index.html#overview … In the payments group we broke them down into high-level groups. E.g., there is a core-security part, another is “trust and identity”. … Everything else has to do with payments, we would probably have stuff specifically for credentials. … We don’t have any conent for this yet, and it will be a good month of effort. Brian Sletten: Would August be soon enough to get started? Manu Sporny: A stub now would be good. Matt Stone: I can help too. Brendan Benshoof: I can help jump in too. Topic: Roadmap Manu Sporny: http://opencreds.org/specs/source/roadmap/ Manu Sporny: This document’s pretty old (but not terrible). Manu Sporny: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webpayments/raw-file/default/latest/roadmap/index.html … The web payments group took a different approach. Manu Sporny: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webpayments/raw-file/default/latest/roadmap/index.html#version-1 … The purpose of the roadmap document is to be crystal clear about what a WG would work on. … It should have a very narrow scope, and specific use cases, capabilities and documents to be produced within the group’s timeframe. … This document tries to make this clear, and shows that there is a near-term end to the work. … I suggest that we lay the roadmap out in a similar way to the Web Payments group, preserving our current diagrams. … I’ll volunteer to align these two documents. Eric Korb: Is there a way we can produce a document that shows the documents we need to produce? Manu Sporny: That’s on today’s agenda. … The roadmap will reference the documents the group will publish. Gregg Kellogg: The group would specify the documents they want to create in the roadmap. [scribe assist by Manu Sporny] Manu Sporny: These documents help rally different groups together to go in a single direction. … The goal for next week should be to have stub-documents set up for all of these documents, and get updates on progress.
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