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Re: Some templates started [Was: Missing op agreement warning]

From: Wayne Carr <wayne.carr@linux.intel.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:45:57 -0800
Message-ID: <50F73BB5.9010700@linux.intel.com>
To: "public-council@w3.org" <public-council@w3.org>

On 1/16/2013 1:44 PM, Young, Milan wrote:
>> From: Ian Jacobs [mailto:ij@w3.org]
> [snip]
>> A process agreement is neither a necessary nor sufficient condition for success.   It's just a good idea for a lot of reasons.
> [Milan] Agreed, but that's not the subject of this thread.  We are trying to come to resolution on the text which alerts potential participants to the potential dangers joining a CG that has no process.  Our proposals must strike a balance between:
>    * The potential severity of the danger.
>    * The likelihood of the danger (agreed chair selection mitigates this danger).
it isn't just chair selection, it is that the group can replace the 
chair any time the group wants to.
>    * The likelihood a potential participant would be aware of these dangers without our warning.
>    * The impact to the CG which has been tagged with the warning (this impact is mitigated by the ease of the solution).
>
> Any  other considerations?
>
The warning should not impose new restrictions on when the W3C can act.  
(e.g. W3C saying the chair is permitted to do various bad behaviors)

The warning should not over promise what a charter can do  (given the 
process says the chair can change the charter; and it is still the W3C 
decision to enforce it)

The proposed ability for the group to replace the chair any time it 
wants to, on the other hand, doesn't depend on anyone except the group 
itself.

How about:
"This group does not have a Charter that describes its scope, 
deliverables, operational rules and decision making process.  In order 
to enable a wide variety of styles of groups, W3C imposes relatively 
little structure on how the Chair manages a group (see the Process).  
Without a Charter, it may be unclear how the group operates or the Chair 
could change how the group operates without warning.  W3C strongly 
encourages groups to operate under a written Charter.  However, even 
with a Charter, participants should be aware that the Process currently 
allows the Chair to change the Charters after notifying the group of the 
change."
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