- From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:56:27 -0500
- To: Kristian Sons <kristian.sons@dfki.de>
- Cc: public-council@w3.org
On 30 Jun 2011, at 4:32 PM, Kristian Sons wrote: > Dear Ian, > > > * You make a commitment that is really aimed at _the specification > > produced by the CG_ > > * You can license your patent claims differently > > in other contexts. > > that's exactly the information I needed. I apologize I couldn't find out without comments. No worries. I have added a link to the W3C Pat Policy FAQ and "Business benefits" document from the new CG FAQ. That might help a little, even if the two policies are distinct. Ian > > Best regards, > Kristian > > > Am 30.06.2011 15:29, schrieb Ian Jacobs: >> >> On 30 Jun 2011, at 5:07 AM, Kristian Sons wrote: >> >>> Dear Ian, >>> >>> I'm not very good in "Legal English". Thus let me try to give an >>> example: >>> >>> Company A has a bright idea for CG B and contributes it. Now it's >>> published as agreed by CLA. For some reason, CG B is not successful >>> and discontinues its work. Now company A decides to exploit the >>> bright idea in a proprietary product and would like to protect the >>> idea using a patent. >>> >>> This is nothing that applies to me (or the DFKI), but I was asked >>> this during the information event we had during Web3D 2011. >> >> Under the CLA [1] patent holders can limit the scope of use of their >> patents (see 12.8.3). >> >> Thus: >> > >> >> Note that the essential claims terms are the same as for the W3C >> Patent Policy. We have a document that may be useful to explaining >> the protections available through these terms. See: >> >> Business Benefits of the W3C Patent Policy >> http://www.w3.org/2004/03/pp-points-20040210.html >> >> Let me know if that helps. Please do ask me lots of questions about >> the CLA! >> >> Ian >> >> [1] https://www.w3.org/community/about/agreements/cla/ >> >>> Thanks. Also thanks to your whole team setting up all this nice >>> infrastructure so fast!! >>> >>> Kristian >>> >>> >>> Am 29.06.2011 16:27, schrieb Ian Jacobs: >>>> On 29 Jun 2011, at 9:14 AM, Kristian Sons wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Ian, >>>>> >>>>> great news. I saw that the mailing lists are set up. I assume >>>>> they are ready to use, is that right? >>>> Yes. >>>>> I have a question regarding the CLA, actually it's a question >>>>> Neil Trevett (Khronos/Nvidia) raised on our preparation >>>>> meeting: If the CG will never complete a specification / will >>>>> never transit to to W3C Recommendation Track (of course we hope >>>>> that will not happen), what about my contributions? In other >>>>> words: If W3C will never utilize my contribution, I will not be >>>>> able to exploit it in a proprietary way because it's under >>>>> CLA? >>>>> >>>>> This might be an issue for organizations... >>>> Some observations: >>>> >>>> 0) Everyone has to sign the CLA. It covers published reports. 1) >>>> The group is not obligated to published reports. If they do, the >>>> CLA applies. 2) People are not obligated to contribute. If they >>>> do, the CLA applies. 3) The group is not obligated to move a >>>> Report to the Rec track. The CLA still applies to the CG's >>>> Report. 4) The Report does not benefit from RF commitments from >>>> all participants over the full text until people sign the "Final >>>> specification agreement", which is voluntary. >>>> >>>> I don't know what you mean by "proprietary way." >>>> >>>> Ian >>>> >>>>> Best reagrds, Kristian >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Am 28.06.2011 16:21, schrieb Ian Jacobs: >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am looking forward to starting the beta period for >>>>>> Community and Business Groups today. Thank you to those who >>>>>> have send me titles and descriptions for your groups. We will >>>>>> be adding those to the system. When everything is in place >>>>>> and "cleaned up" I'll write to let you know that we're >>>>>> underway. I expect this later today Chicago time. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's what I expect you will be able to do during the beta: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) Join these groups. This involves making a licensing >>>>>> commitment (even in beta). All this should be obvious through >>>>>> the UI, and if it is not, we'll fix it. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2) Start using mailing lists, blog, and wiki for discussions, >>>>>> writing, and so forth. The lists and wiki are not new pieces >>>>>> of infrastructure, but the blog (WordPress) is. There are >>>>>> features for polls, events, and obviously generic blogging. I >>>>>> look forward to hearing your feedback on using a blog to >>>>>> create news for your group home page. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3) Check out the site; look for bugs, missing information, >>>>>> etc. Please use public-council@w3.org to share your >>>>>> observations and bug reports. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's what you won't be able to do during the beta: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) Publish documents. Of course, that does not prevent you >>>>>> from writing things down in a wiki. But we are developing a >>>>>> webmaster-free publications tool and we've not implemented it >>>>>> yet. I hope to have it at launch or shortly thereafter. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please note that these resources and tools will be public but >>>>>> not loudly announced. Therefore, I would like to request >>>>>> that, while you should certainly invite people to participate >>>>>> in your groups, that you not do broad announcements for the >>>>>> time being. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will be announcing publicly (via the W3C blog) the start of >>>>>> the beta (but not pointing to the site). In the post I plan >>>>>> to let people know that we are doing a beta and that the >>>>>> public launch will take place around 25 July. >>>>>> >>>>>> Let me know if you have any questions! >>>>>> >>>>>> Ian >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org) >>>>>> http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/ Tel: >>>>>> +1 718 260 9447 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- ________________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Kristian Sons Deutsches Forschungszentrum für Künstliche >>>>> Intelligenz GmbH, DFKI Agenten und Simulierte Realität Campus, >>>>> Geb. D 3 2, Raum 0.77 66123 Saarbrücken, Germany >>>>> >>>>> Phone: +49 681 85775-3833 Phone: +49 681 302-3833 Fax: +49 >>>>> 681 85775–2235 kristian.sons@dfki.de http://www.xml3d.org >>>>> >>>>> Geschäftsführung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster >>>>> (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff >>>>> >>>>> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >>>>> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 >>>>> ________________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/ >>>> Tel: +1 718 260 9447 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- ________________________________________________________ >>> >>> Kristian Sons Deutsches Forschungszentrum für Künstliche >>> Intelligenz GmbH, DFKI Agenten und Simulierte Realität Campus D >>> 3-2, Stuhlsatzenhausweg 3, D-66123 Saarbrücken, Germany Phone: >>> (+49 681) 302-3833, Fax: ...-3843, E-Mail: kristian.sons@dfki.de >>> Mobil: +49 151 / 50 98 76 08 DFKI Informationen: >>> http://www.dfki.de >>> >>> Geschäftsführung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster >>> (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff >>> >>> Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes >>> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 >>> ________________________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/ Tel: >> +1 718 260 9447 >> >> > > > -- > ________________________________________________________ > > Kristian Sons > Deutsches Forschungszentrum für Künstliche Intelligenz GmbH, DFKI > Agenten und Simulierte Realität > Campus, Geb. D 3 2, Raum 0.77 > 66123 Saarbrücken, Germany > > Phone: +49 681 85775-3833 > Phone: +49 681 302-3833 > Fax: +49 681 85775–2235 > kristian.sons@dfki.de > http://www.xml3d.org > > Geschäftsführung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) > Dr. Walter Olthoff > > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes > Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 > ________________________________________________________ > > -- Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/ Tel: +1 718 260 9447
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