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CLA question (was: Re: Regarding start of Community Group beta today (2011-06-28))

From: Kristian Sons <kristian.sons@dfki.de>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:07:05 +0200
Message-ID: <4E0C4AC9.4070508@dfki.de>
To: public-council@w3.org
Dear Ian,

I'm not very good in "Legal English". Thus let me try to give an example:

Company A has a bright idea for CG B and contributes it. Now it's 
published as agreed by CLA. For some reason, CG B is not successful and 
discontinues its work. Now company A decides to exploit the bright idea 
in a proprietary product and would like to protect the idea using a patent.

This is nothing that applies to me (or the DFKI), but I was asked this 
during the information event we had during Web3D 2011.

Thanks. Also thanks to your whole team setting up all this nice 
infrastructure so fast!!

Kristian


Am 29.06.2011 16:27, schrieb Ian Jacobs:
> On 29 Jun 2011, at 9:14 AM, Kristian Sons wrote:
>
>> Dear Ian,
>>
>> great news. I saw that the mailing lists are set up. I assume they are ready to use, is that right?
> Yes.
>> I have a question regarding the CLA, actually it's a question Neil Trevett (Khronos/Nvidia) raised on our preparation meeting: If the CG will never complete a specification / will never transit to to W3C Recommendation Track (of course we hope that will not happen), what about my contributions? In other words: If W3C will never utilize my contribution, I will not be able to exploit it in a proprietary way because it's under CLA?
>>
>> This might be an issue for organizations...
> Some observations:
>
> 0) Everyone has to sign the CLA. It covers published reports.
> 1) The group is not obligated to published reports. If they do, the CLA applies.
> 2) People are not obligated to contribute. If they do, the CLA applies.
> 3) The group is not obligated to move a Report to the Rec track. The CLA still applies to the CG's Report.
> 4) The Report does not benefit from RF commitments from all participants over the full text until people sign the "Final specification agreement", which is voluntary.
>
> I don't know what you mean by "proprietary way."
>
> Ian
>
>> Best reagrds,
>>   Kristian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 28.06.2011 16:21, schrieb Ian Jacobs:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I am looking forward to starting the beta period for Community and Business Groups today. Thank you to those who have send me titles and descriptions for your groups. We will be adding those to the system. When everything is in place and "cleaned up" I'll write to let you know that we're underway. I expect this later today Chicago time.
>>>
>>> Here's what I expect you will be able to do during the beta:
>>>
>>>   1) Join these groups. This involves making a licensing commitment (even in beta). All this should be obvious through the UI, and if it is not, we'll fix it.
>>>
>>>   2) Start using mailing lists, blog, and wiki for discussions, writing, and so forth. The lists and wiki are not new pieces of infrastructure, but the blog (WordPress) is. There are features for polls, events, and obviously generic blogging. I look forward to hearing your feedback on using a blog to create news for your group home page.
>>>
>>>   3) Check out the site; look for bugs, missing information, etc. Please use public-council@w3.org to share your observations and bug reports.
>>>
>>> Here's what you won't be able to do during the beta:
>>>
>>>   1) Publish documents. Of course, that does not prevent you from writing things down in a wiki. But we are developing a webmaster-free publications tool and we've not implemented it yet. I hope to have it at launch or shortly thereafter.
>>>
>>> Please note that these resources and tools will be public but not loudly announced. Therefore, I would like to request that, while you should certainly invite people to participate in your groups, that you not do broad announcements for the time being.
>>>
>>> I will be announcing publicly (via the W3C blog) the start of the beta (but not pointing to the site). In the post I plan to let people know that we are doing a beta and that the public launch will take place around 25 July.
>>>
>>> Let me know if you have any questions!
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
>>> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
>>>
>>>
>>
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>> Kristian Sons
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>>
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>>
>>
> --
> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
>
>


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Kristian Sons
Deutsches Forschungszentrum für Künstliche Intelligenz GmbH, DFKI
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Geschäftsführung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)
Dr. Walter Olthoff

Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes
Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313
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