RE: Agenda for Chemistry on the Web Meeting 9-2-2021

left bracket cap c o left paren cap n cap h 3 right paren 6 right bracket 3 plus

Looks OK.

Perhaps pauses after cap c (to emphasise that the o is not cap)and after 6.

Depending on the level of the text,  you could consider n h 3 and drop the caps. This is similar to saying water as h 2 o.

Elaine

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[I've added back the chem CG so others can comment if they want]

Thanks for the reply. I wasn't planning on using the IUPAC name because that is not what the group said they wanted (FYI: the name in the link is what is used in wikipedia, which is what I copied). The google doc says to spell it out. So with your comment that the parens should not be spoken in a special way, [Co(NH3)6]3+ would be spoken as:
left bracket cap c o left paren cap n cap h 3 right paren 6 right bracket 3 plus

The doc doesn't mention how to speak ions, but since "3 plus" can't be a subscript, I'm guessing that is what is desired. Is this the intended way to speak this? Any recommended places for small, medium or large pauses?

Also, do people want a way to hear the IUPAC name instead?

Thanks,

    Neil




On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 3:18 AM E.A.Moore <e.a.moore@open.ac.uk<mailto:e.a.moore@open.ac.uk>> wrote:
I wouldn’t speak the brackets in a specific way,  I would say square brackets. However I think the IUPAC name is hexaamminocobalt three. Three here being the oxidation state of cobalt.  It is crucial to mention 3 in some form either like this or as 3+ because there is another ion with a similar formula but 2+. Also I think ligands attached to a metal strictly have an o ending. Here ammino. Note  there may be possible confusion between ammino (short a, short I) and amino (long I).

Regarrds,

Elaine

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I've started working on handling chemistry in MathCAT (my NVDA addon). I looked at the google doc the group made last year for examples of speech,but it didn't have anything for [Co(NH3)6]3+
It is Hexamminecobalt<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FHexamminecobalt(III)_chloride&data=05%7C01%7Ce.a.moore%40open.ac.uk%7C78e74a63e3084c4a6e9e08da57a6b258%7C0e2ed45596af4100bed3a8e5fd981685%7C0%7C0%7C637918670708952694%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=FvWll%2Fhz4u4KJ8hYMjiCOYDVVKrRa3C9quZQgQ5Kmho%3D&reserved=0>. How do you want the parens and brackets spoken in this expression (the brackets are not concentration). Are they spoken in a specific way for chemistry?

Thanks,

    Neil



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Subject: Agenda for Chemistry on the Web Meeting 9-2-2021

Hello,

Below is a brief agenda for our meeting on Thursday September 2nd at
12:00 PM EDT. If anyone has any additional items, feel free to send them out beforehand or bring them up during the meeting.


1. Approve minutes from previous meeting.


2. Call for scribe.


3. Review status of W3C Chemistry Community report on work over the last year.


4. Discussion of other possible projects to consider.


5. Any other business.


6. Schedule next meeting.


Greg