- From: Jo Rabin <jrabin@mtld.mobi>
- Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:25:49 +0100
- To: <public-bpwg-ct@w3.org>
Please find these at [A] and as text below.
Thanks to Rob for scribing and to Matt for fixing up the minutes.
Jo
[A] http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
28 Aug 2007
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-irc
Attendees
Present
Rhys, Magnus_Lonnroth, kemp, Andrew, Jo, sean_patterson, Rob
Regrets
Chair
Rhys
Scribe
Rob
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Review Problem Statement
2. [5]AOB
* [6]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot-ng> Date: 28 August 2007
<Andrew> Zarkim, who is on the call?
i can scribe if u like
<jo> scribenick: rob
<jo> Scribe: Rob
<Rhys>
[7]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg-ct/2007Aug/0007.h
tml
[7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg-ct/2007Aug/
0007.html
rhys: additions to agenda?
<jo>
[8]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/Drafts/mobileOK-Pro-1.0-Tes
ts/20070716
[8] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/Drafts/mobileOK-
Pro-1.0-Tests/20070716
<jo> oops
rhys: more from Magnus at the appropriate time
<jo>
[9]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/CT/editors-draft
s/ProblemStatement/070823
[9] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/CT/
editors-drafts/ProblemStatement/070823
<jo> (latest draft of Problem statement posted after the agenda was
sent out)
<jo> worked up from andrew's draft plus actions from last telecon to
update with additional items from the F2F
Review Problem Statement
<jo> thinks that jo speaking is a waste of time -
<jo> on wlan and skype a bad combo
<jo> will see if there is a fixed phone somewhere
andrew: suggests discuss not mobile-specific but generic
delivery-context
<jo> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Documents to refer to delivery context in
general rather than mobile specifically
<jo> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: [CTF] Documents to refer to delivery
context in general rather than mobile specifically
Rhys: isn't a problem that we are a mobile group
+1
<kemp> +1
<jo> RESOLUTION: [CTF] Documents to refer to delivery context in
general rather than mobile specifically
Rhys: Q about sec 2, 1st bullet: Identify what representations are
available for a resource.
jo: summarises next 4 sub-bullets
... eg HTTP 305 return code
Rhys: understood
<jo> np!
Andrew: thanks Jo for completing the action!
Magnus: the following comments are based on Andrews email, not Jo's
write-up...
... would be unfortunate if intermediate proxy messed with some
MIME-types for certain apps
... reducing size of ad-banners often makes them ineffective or
unreadable... does this make replacing them or removing them
acceptable?
<Rhys>
[10]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg-ct/2007Aug/0012.
html
[10] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg-ct/2007Aug/
0012.html
jo: these are good additions
... advertising point might be kicked to "Society" domain
... would rather we note the point, don't try to answer it
Rhys: this is a guidelines doc, so may be worth guiding the authors
that there may be unexpected outcomes with adverts
Sean: any examples on type of app for point 1?
Magnus: J2ME app requesting an image - don't want size/colour depth
altering for the phone's browser
Rhys: also AJAX apps - this would even come from the browser's
User-Agent
Magnus: indeed. AJAX can request anything
... Will this doc lead to statements of what to do for each actor in
the chain?
Rhys: Yes, eg what the origin-server should do, what the adaptation
proxies should do all along the chain
<jo> ACTION: [ctf] Jo to weave magnus's text into current draft
[recorded in
[11]http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - [ctf]
<jo> ACTION: Jo to weave magnus's text into current draft [Conten
Transformation] [recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-539 - Weave magnus's text into current
draft [Conten Transformation] [on Jo Rabin - due 2007-09-04].
<Rhys>
[13]http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/CT/editors-draf
ts/Guidelines/2007-08/CTGuidelines.html
[13] http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/CT/
editors-drafts/Guidelines/2007-08/CTGuidelines.html
Topic 2. Review Guidelines W3C Working Draft
<jo> is happy with structure of doc as stands
Rhys: who'd like to voulenteer info for sections?
Sean: sec 2.3 to start with
<rhys> ACTION: SeanP to write initial material for section 2.3 for
10th Sept [recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action03]
Aaron: want to contribute to 2.3, maybe 2.2 maybe others
<rhys> ACTION: Aaron to write initial material for section 2.2/2.3
for 10th Sept [recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action04]
Andrew: 2.3 and 2.4 please
<rhys> ACTION: Andrew to write initial material for section
2.1/2.3/3.1/3.2 for 10th Sept [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action05]
Magnus: 2.1 please
<rhys> ACTION: Magnus to write initial material for section 2.1 for
10th Sept [recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action06]
Andrew: is 2.1 a general intro?
Magnus: it's about HTTP protocol
Sean: and 2.2, 2.3 and 2.4 are more detail
Jo: contributors could start with this ToC and we can adjust the
structure later
Rhys: OK, start with this structure then
<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-540 - Make contribution nominally
against 2.1 [on Magnus Lönnroth - due 2007-09-04].
<trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - Patterson
<trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - SeanP
Magnus: prefer due-date of draft for 10 Sept
Sean: same here, just a draft
<Andrew> I will contribute to 2.1, 2.3, 3.1 & 3.2 by 10 September
Jo: will assign actions later, trackbot's not co-operating at
moment.
AOB
Rhys: will be on vacation on a bike next call
... so Jo will chair next
<jo> request that each person taking action is noted as having done
so
Rhys: thanks everyone
<jo> othewise we will have no record
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: [ctf] Jo to weave magnus's text into current draft
[recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Aaron to write initial material for section 2.2/2.3
for 10th Sept [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Andrew to write initial material for section
2.1/2.3/3.1/3.2 for 10th Sept [recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: Jo to weave magnus's text into current draft [Conten
Transformation] [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Magnus to write initial material for section 2.1 for
10th Sept [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: SeanP to write initial material for section 2.3 for
10th Sept [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2007/08/28-bpwg-minutes.html#action03]
[End of minutes]
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