Re: Keynote Speaker(s)?

Actually, fill it out before our meeting at 2 PM :)

On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Neha Narula <narula@csail.mit.edu> wrote:

> I made a poll.  Please fill it out by EOD:
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> http://doodle.com/poll/zhduxgsuvzk4td9q
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> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Reyes, Carla L. (Perkins Coie) <
> CReyes@perkinscoie.com> wrote:
>
>> I think an academic that could speak to how w3c's work has shaped the
>> landscape in the past (and not just at a technical level, but also Ina
>> broader industry impact level) and can set up how the work folks at the
>> workshop are about to undertake may shape the landscape going forward could
>> be good.  It would not be slanted toward any particular tech, and it could
>> help reinforce the point of the workshop, the blending of communities, and
>> broader implications of the undertaking beyond the technical aspects.
>>
>> Lightening talks have a tendency, in my experience, of going extremely
>> over time, so I am less a fan of this option. Further lightening talks
>> suggest plural and the more speakers to herd the more likely things go
>> awry.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 12, 2016, at 10:35 AM, Bailey Reutzel <baileyreutzel@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Doug--
>>
>> I still think you make a great point about having a speaker come in to
>> get the conversation started, implant some interesting ideas, etc. Didn't
>> someone suggest an academic?
>>
>> IMO, that would be better since they won't have stake in the game and
>> there won't be a chance of them pushing a product, which is not what people
>> want from this workshop.
>>
>> -B
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, folks–
>>>
>>> I'm hearing a fairly consistent sentiment against keynotes. (What else
>>> did I expect from a pack of Libertarians? :D) Assuming that y'all represent
>>> a meaningful segment of blockchain folks, I'm now leaning against having a
>>> keynote.
>>>
>>> I made the case for having a keynote, but I'm not yet hearing any strong
>>> voices to reinforce the case for a keynote speaker.
>>>
>>> So, if you do want a keynote speaker, speak now or forever hold your
>>> peace.
>>>
>>> I don't know if folks like Stefan or Arvind will still be motivated to
>>> attend if they aren't giving a keynote, but let's hope.
>>>
>>> Regards–
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On 5/12/16 11:25 AM, Ryan Shea wrote:
>>>
>>>> I vote no on the keynote as well.
>>>>
>>>> I'd be concerned about a bias or slant towards one particular technology
>>>> or platform like Ripple. Combine that with the fact that the industry is
>>>> so young and we're essentially all peers here.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Rick Dudley <afd@erisindustries.com
>>>> <mailto:afd@erisindustries.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     I don't want a keynote. I want to make progress deploying
>>>>     decentralization technology into browsers. If he wants to have
>>>>     discussion about using standards bodies to develop technology,
>>>>     great. I don't want to hear about much else.
>>>>
>>>>     Everyone who replied is on the blockchain side of things, I much
>>>>     rather have a keynote from someone who got some code into production
>>>>     browsers as an outsider.
>>>>
>>>>     Maybe someone from Brave would be interested in joining us?
>>>>
>>>>     -Rick
>>>>
>>>>     On May 12, 2016 10:39 AM, "Neha Narula" <narula@csail.mit.edu
>>>>     <mailto:narula@csail.mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         I'm OK with no keynotes, but I'd like to throw out another,
>>>>         academic option.  Arvind Narayanan, a professor in computer
>>>>         science at Princeton:
>>>>
>>>>         http://randomwalker.info/
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__randomwalker.info_&d=CwMFaQ&c=XRWvQHnpdBDRh-yzrHjqLpXuHNC_9nanQc6pPG_SpT0&r=ikIaHNRxkiCsY0orcUHIHYdSup2sVtEBMPivz-5UvZ8&m=hKri3voxmPO4PObdZypIyTP_5bFJqH1QJ3-5Mr4qY54&s=96yakpEH0O4nTmF9ue1rz_qF-MaCvxy4WekCKqRQ6DE&e=>
>>>>
>>>>         Arvind has done a ton of research in this space and actually
>>>>         wrote a textbook on Bitcoin.  I've heard him speak (most
>>>>         recently at the MIT Bitcoin expo, link
>>>>         here: https://youtu.be/UVuUZm4l-ss?t=14155
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_UVuUZm4l-2Dss-3Ft-3D14155&d=CwMFaQ&c=XRWvQHnpdBDRh-yzrHjqLpXuHNC_9nanQc6pPG_SpT0&r=ikIaHNRxkiCsY0orcUHIHYdSup2sVtEBMPivz-5UvZ8&m=hKri3voxmPO4PObdZypIyTP_5bFJqH1QJ3-5Mr4qY54&s=d4WcOR88d78ZBn0buV-shbVeIi0KlQwVmxmdxxvesX8&e=>)
>>>> and he's an
>>>>         excellent speaker.  He can address high-level overviews and
>>>>         broader themes while still incorporating interesting technical
>>>>         content.
>>>>
>>>>         On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 5:19 AM, Trent McConaghy
>>>>         <gtrent@gmail.com <mailto:gtrent@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             Agree with Gavin, Chris and others - I prefer no keynotes as
>>>>             well. Better "participatory and collaborative atmosphere"..
>>>>
>>>>             Lightning talks ok, but only if a fraction of the time, and
>>>>             if there are better scene-setting mechanisms, all the
>>>> better.
>>>>
>>>>             It would be helpful to have Stefan be part of the workshop
>>>>             though - he's good, and as Bailey mentioned is doing going
>>>>             through the W3C process with Interledger. Also his
>>>>             Interledger colleague, Evan Schwartz, is appropriate.
>>>>
>>>>             On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Gavin Wood
>>>>             <gavin@ethcore.io <mailto:gavin@ethcore.io>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                 I'm also inclined to stay away from keynotes and the
>>>>                 like. I feel that the chances of engendering
>>>>                 a participatory and collaborative atmosphere can be
>>>>                 maximised by avoiding the elevation of any
>>>>                 particular participants, even for a well-meaning purpose
>>>>                 such as "getting everyone on the same page". Rather I
>>>>                 would look for means to structure and define the events
>>>>                 content and aims well enough beforehand to render any
>>>>                 kind of "scene setting" largely redundant.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 On Thursday, 12 May 2016, Doug Schepers <
>>>> schepers@w3.org
>>>>                 <mailto:schepers@w3.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                     Hi, Christopher–
>>>>
>>>>                     I hear you that your preference is for an entirely
>>>>                     participatory event.
>>>>                     I'm less convinced than you, at this point, that
>>>>                     everyone is on the same
>>>>                     page.
>>>>
>>>>                     Having a thoughtful speaker can set a tone and
>>>>                     context, and raise great
>>>>                     questions that are discussed at the rest of the
>>>>                     workshop.
>>>>
>>>>                     At W3C's recent Advisory Committee meeting, Bruce
>>>>                     Schneier spoke on
>>>>                     security and the "techno-social process" of
>>>>                     standards and law, and it
>>>>                     was the highlight of the event, prompting a lot of
>>>>                     useful discussion.
>>>>
>>>>                     A good keynote speaker can also attract attendees,
>>>>                     who might feel more
>>>>                     incentive to attend for a chance to listen to and
>>>>                     interact with the
>>>>                     speakers.
>>>>
>>>>                     More replies inline…
>>>>
>>>>                     On 5/11/16 7:58 PM, Christopher Allen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                         There are a side variety of formats possible.
>>>>                         Just a few that I’ve
>>>>                         used:
>>>>
>>>>                         * Open Space
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Open-5FSpace-5FTechnology&d=CwMFaQ&c=XRWvQHnpdBDRh-yzrHjqLpXuHNC_9nanQc6pPG_SpT0&r=ikIaHNRxkiCsY0orcUHIHYdSup2sVtEBMPivz-5UvZ8&m=hKri3voxmPO4PObdZypIyTP_5bFJqH1QJ3-5Mr4qY54&s=6XYib6r8BbQjTU6kCqgSWLupBbLYQM7yCOLKnG8yF_c&e=>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                     I'm open to looser agendas, but I am nervous about
>>>>                     having a productive
>>>>                     set of discussions if there's no general set of
>>>>                     topics or agenda; I can
>>>>                     see it descending quickly into rat-holing.
>>>>
>>>>                     There are also people who won't attend open-agenda
>>>>                     workshops because
>>>>                     there is less assurance of some ROI outcome. If we
>>>>                     want to attract the
>>>>                     right people, do you think an open agenda will be
>>>>                     the best way to
>>>>                     accomplish that? This isn't a rhetorical question… I
>>>>                     don't know the
>>>>                     blockchain community well enough to judge.
>>>>
>>>>                     (I've anecdotally heard from Asian colleagues that
>>>>                     agenda-less meetings
>>>>                     are sometimes not well-received in their cultures.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                         * World Cafe http://www.theworldcafe.com/
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.theworldcafe.com_&d=CwMFaQ&c=XRWvQHnpdBDRh-yzrHjqLpXuHNC_9nanQc6pPG_SpT0&r=ikIaHNRxkiCsY0orcUHIHYdSup2sVtEBMPivz-5UvZ8&m=hKri3voxmPO4PObdZypIyTP_5bFJqH1QJ3-5Mr4qY54&s=_imW8fUm3jgu67tf4tRG7RCQimYeqvD8_aw2_N_VrX4&e=>
>>>> or my
>>>>                         closely related
>>>>                         Braid (does more mixing)
>>>>
>>>> http://www.lifewithalacrity.com/2009/09/facilitating-small-gatherings-using-the-braid.html
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.lifewithalacrity.com_2009_09_facilitating-2Dsmall-2Dgatherings-2Dusing-2Dthe-2Dbraid.html&d=CwMFaQ&c=XRWvQHnpdBDRh-yzrHjqLpXuHNC_9nanQc6pPG_SpT0&r=ikIaHNRxkiCsY0orcUHIHYdSup2sVtEBMPivz-5UvZ8&m=hKri3voxmPO4PObdZypIyTP_5bFJqH1QJ3-5Mr4qY54&s=2JrQfvEOgMqIqHaYnSxuRms7AD6ohf5T6fbRVVq5KP8&e=>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                     This
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                     sounds interesting, but also a bit complicated to
>>>>                     manage with a
>>>>                     large number of people.
>>>>
>>>>                     My own thought was that we'd break out into
>>>>                     voluntary topic tables,
>>>>                     where people wander in and out unconference-style,
>>>>                     and as topic petered
>>>>                     out or built up, we'd discover which topics garnered
>>>>                     the most interest.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                         * Design Workshop (example of the last one I ran
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/WebOfTrustInfo/rebooting-the-web-of-trust/blob/master/event-documents/process/RebootingtheWebOfTrustProcess.pdf
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_WebOfTrustInfo_rebooting-2Dthe-2Dweb-2Dof-2Dtrust_blob_master_event-2Ddocuments_process_RebootingtheWebOfTrustProcess.pdf&d=CwMFaQ&c=XRWvQHnpdBDRh-yzrHjqLpXuHNC_9nanQc6pPG_SpT0&r=ikIaHNRxkiCsY0orcUHIHYdSup2sVtEBMPivz-5UvZ8&m=hKri3voxmPO4PObdZypIyTP_5bFJqH1QJ3-5Mr4qY54&s=MEF-4U_rxwzz4ci9mILS2utUpBYKrDCfS4l4iL0377Y&e=>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                     )
>>>>
>>>>                     This also seems a bit complicated and gamified, to
>>>>                     me. I'm somewhat
>>>>                     skeptical of "new system" meetings where everyone
>>>>                     has to learn the rules
>>>>                     on the fly, which seems to inhibit natural
>>>>                     conversation flows; they seem
>>>>                     to be more about the process than the discussion.
>>>>                     But I haven't
>>>>                     experienced this particular variation, and maybe
>>>>                     it's really effective.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                         * Lightning Talks (truly 5 minutes talk and 5
>>>>                         minutes Q&A) for a
>>>>                         half-day, then election from those for further
>>>>                         discussion for rest
>>>>                         of day. Repeat 2nd day.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                     This is more or less what I had in mind.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                         * Poster Sessions
>>>>                         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poster_session
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Poster-5Fsession&d=CwMFaQ&c=XRWvQHnpdBDRh-yzrHjqLpXuHNC_9nanQc6pPG_SpT0&r=ikIaHNRxkiCsY0orcUHIHYdSup2sVtEBMPivz-5UvZ8&m=hKri3voxmPO4PObdZypIyTP_5bFJqH1QJ3-5Mr4qY54&s=40qpBtcn0Z-lij9Kw21Yl5SZ8e5ErcPqrL3d5f-cnmQ&e=>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                     No enough group conversation for my taste.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                         * and there any more…
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                     Yes, many many more. I prefer to keep the rules
>>>>                     simple, and maximize the
>>>>                     group discussion opportunities.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                         Another option is that one of the best graphic
>>>>                         facilitators in the
>>>>                         world resides in Boston, and we could retain her
>>>>                         for $3500 and use
>>>>                         whatever process she recommends.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                     I like this idea, and I'd like to have the drawings
>>>>                     for later
>>>>                     documentation and spreading the word about the
>>>> event.
>>>>
>>>>                     It would work well for plenary sessions; I'm not
>>>>                     sure how it scales to
>>>>                     multiple parallel groups discussing different
>>>> topics.
>>>>
>>>>                     Also, we don't currently have the budget for this.
>>>>                     I'd be even more open
>>>>                     to it if we had more sponsors.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                         The key point is that the knowledge is in the
>>>>                         room, and parallel
>>>>                         processes with smaller groups are more likely to
>>>>                         emerge with choices
>>>>                         for the larger group to explore.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                     We agree there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                         Sage on the stage and other serial processes
>>>>                         waste energy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                     I'm not convinced that's universally true.
>>>>
>>>>                     (I'm also skeptical of pithy slogans, like "sage on
>>>>                     the stage". :P)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                     But I don't want to dictate what format this
>>>>                     workshop uses… I am open to conversation about it,
>>>>                     making sure that we hear from a large number of
>>>>                     people on the PC what they think will be most
>>>>                     effective. I do want to settle on format fairly
>>>>                     quickly, because it's a topic that can balloon to
>>>>                     fill all available conversation time.
>>>>
>>>>                     How should we decide on format, in an efficient way?
>>>>
>>>>                     Regards–
>>>>                     Doug
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 --
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>>>>
>>>>                         Dr. Gavin Wood   Director, Ethcore
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