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Re: [schemaorg/schemaorg] Improving Dataset descriptions (#1083)

From: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>
Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 14:29:00 +0100
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To: "Gray, Alasdair J G" <A.J.G.Gray@hw.ac.uk>
Cc: "public-bioschemas@w3.org" <public-bioschemas@w3.org>
Thanks, you beat me to it! Yes, I would love to have bioschemas feedback on
this point, since variableMeasured came out of conversations here. My
feeling is that he has a point but I welcome discussion...

Dan

On 10 May 2017 at 09:32, Gray, Alasdair J G <A.J.G.Gray@hw.ac.uk> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> The following discussion on the schema.org list looks to be relevant to
> our work on dataset descriptions for bioschemas.
>
> Alasdair
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> BTW - the use of the word 'Measured' also has this problem - 'Measure'
> usually applies to data collection activities with *quantitative*, but
> not *categorical* results. So variableMeasured has the risk that it
> implicitly excludes datasets where the 'values' are catergories rather than
> numbers.
>
> There are precedents from several scientific domains to use the more
> general term 'Observed' and 'Observation' (rather than Measured and
> Measurement) to allow for both categories and quantities. SSN [1] & O&M [2]
> use 'observedProperty' and OBOE [3] has 'ofCharacteristic'.
>
> [1] http://w3c.github.io/sdw/ssn/
> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observations_and_Measurements
> https://dx.doi.org/10.13140/2.1.1142.3042
> [3] https://dx.doi.org/10.5063/F11C1TTM
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