Re: Accessible name computation and web-platform-tests

I think the point is that 2C has to be checked regardless of the existence
of the `aria-label`. Meaning that since we are traversing current node due
to recursion and it is an embedded control we skip 2D and use 2E.

Am Mi., 23. Okt. 2019 um 08:38 Uhr schrieb Sebastian Silbermann <
silbermann.sebastian@gmail.com>:

> Thanks for the response Bryan.
>
> Ok I understand the which step is used but in the algorithm step 2D comes
> before 2E. In 2D we check for a title attribute, no? Where is it specified
> that we don't use the title if the current node is not the root node?
>
> Or is it actually step 2D and we prioritize the value attribute over the
> title attribute? If so where is this order specified?
>
> And last but not least: The element is a combobox. Where is it specified
> that the chose option is the value attribute? The sentence explicitly links
> to the option role not a section that specifies how to compute the chosen
> option of a combobox.
>
> Thank you for your time. I appreciate it that someone assists me
> understanding this!
>
> Am Di., 22. Okt. 2019 um 00:43 Uhr schrieb Bryan Garaventa <
> bryan.garaventa@levelaccess.com>:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Actually this has to do with the difference between the ‘root node’ and
>> the ‘current node’, where, for widget controls, only the value is returned
>> when the root node is not the same as the current node.
>>
>>
>>
>> In this case, the root node is the heading, and that is where it stays
>> during the computation. In contrast, the current node is recursively moved
>> into the child nodes within the heading to compute the accessible name for
>> the root node.
>>
>>
>>
>> If this were a different test, such as testing the accessible name only
>> on the combobox, then the title attribute would be used because both the
>> root node and the current node are the same element, and the value property
>> is not a valid labelling mechanism for a widget control.
>>
>>
>>
>> However, since the root node and the current node don’t match, and the
>> current node is a widget with a value, then it returns the name based on
>> the AccName step 2E, where it states:
>>
>>
>>
>> “■ If the embedded control has role combobox or listbox, return the text
>> alternative of the chosen option.”
>>
>> https://www.w3.org/TR/accname-1.1/
>>
>>
>>
>> Since the accessible name for the combobox is already returned using its
>> value, the title attribute is ignored.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hopefully this makes sense.
>>
>>
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Bryan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bryan Garaventa
>>
>> Principal Accessibility Architect
>>
>> Level Access, Inc.
>>
>> Bryan.Garaventa@LevelAccess.com
>>
>> 415.624.2709 (o)
>>
>> www.LevelAccess.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Sebastian Silbermann <silbermann.sebastian@gmail.com>
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>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm currently implementing the accessible name computation for HTML
>> elements following https://w3c.github.io/accname/ and comparing the
>> results with
>> https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/tree/574af55b103d2e732efa72af2719121f96db38f3/accname
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>> There's currently one test case that confuses me:
>>
>> <h2>
>>   Country of origin:
>>   <input role="combobox" type="text" title="Choose your country."
>> value="United States">
>> </h2>
>>
>> from
>> https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/blob/574af55b103d2e732efa72af2719121f96db38f3/accname/name_heading-combobox-focusable-alternative-manual.html
>>
>>
>>
>> The test expects the accessible name for the h2 element to be "Country of
>> origin: United States". However, I'm not sure which path in
>> https://w3c.github.io/accname/#mapping_additional_nd_te is taken to
>> arrive at this computation as I arrive at "Countr of origin: Choose your
>> country".
>>
>>
>>
>> From my understanding we use 2F since h2 allows name from content and
>> then we concetanate the text node and the accessible name of the input.
>> However for the input I would use 2D which isn't defined in this document
>> as far as I can tell. So I looked into
>> https://w3c.github.io/html-aam/#input-type-text-input-type-password-input-type-search-input-type-tel-input-type-url-and-textarea-element and
>> there it says I should use the `title`. There's no mention of using the
>> `value` attribute.
>>
>>
>>
>> What I could see is 2E being used for the input (combobox) and then the
>> `value` being considered as the selected option.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would appreciate it if somebody could clarify this. So far the
>> documents have been very clear to me.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>

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