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Re: [External] Re: Archive proposals to enhance Schema.org accepted and published

From: Roke, Elizabeth Russey <erussey@emory.edu>
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2019 13:35:00 +0000
To: Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com>, Richard Wallis <richard.wallis@dataliberate.com>
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Dan and Richard—
Perhaps you could answer a question about the Google Structured Data Testing Tool.  It’s reporting errors for the new Schema Archives terms.  Is that going to happen as long as the archives proposal is still in pending status?  Many of us use that to check our markup.

Thanks,
Elizabeth

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From: Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 12:45 PM
To: Richard Wallis <richard.wallis@dataliberate.com>
Cc: public-architypes <public-architypes@w3.org>
Subject: [External] Re: Archive proposals to enhance Schema.org accepted and published
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Resent-Date: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 12:45 PM


Great to see this work maturing. Let me elaborate on Richard's point:

"All these, new in version 3.5, terms are held in the 'pending' section of the vocabulary.  This is normal practice and over time they will move out of that section.  Being in pending does not mean that a term should not be used.  In practice, the more a term is used, the sooner it will move out of pending."

I'd go further, and say that we really want to see applications using and consuming this new vocabulary, and that Schema.org is reluctant to move terms out of Pending without evidence that they are being actively used in serious applications. That need not be Web-wide search, but it should be applications with real users of some kind. So if you are making use of these terms, please don't be shy about sharing and publicizing what you're doing!

Dan


On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 12:33, Richard Wallis <richard.wallis@dataliberate.com<mailto:richard.wallis@dataliberate.com>> wrote:
Hi all,

I am pleased to announce that the latest release of the Schema..org vocabulary (3.5) was launched today. It includes our proposals for archive specific terms. There were a few minor alterations as part of the process but in essence it is our proposal.


Specifically:

  *   ArchiveOrganization<https://schema.org/ArchiveOrganization> - A new type that identifies 'An organization with archival holdings'
  *   ArchiveComponent<https://schema.org.org/ArchiveComponent> - A new type that can be applied to any archive content, collection or item.
  *   archiveHeld<https://schema.org/archiveHeld> - A property for ArchiveOrganization. Collection fonds or item held, kept, or maintained by an ArchiveOrganization Inverse of holdingArchive.
  *   holdingArchive<https://schema.org/holdingArchive> - A property for ArchiveComponent. ArchiveOrganization that holds keeps or maintains the ArchiveComponent.  Inverse of archiveHeld.
In a separate proposal relevant to our group two more properties have been added to the vocabulary:

  *   collectionSize<https://schema.org/collectionSize> - Added to the Collection<https://schema.org/Collection> type  to indicate the number of items in the collection.
  *   materialExtent<https://schema.org/materialExtent> - Added to the CreativeWork<https://schema.org/CreativeWork> type (and therefore its subtypes). 'The quantity of the materials being described or an expression of the physical space they occupy.'  This can be defined as either a simple string or a detailed quantified value and measurement type using the QuantitativeValue<https://schema.org/QuantitativeValue> type.
Also some new CreativeWorks subtypes suggested by the bibliographic folks may come in handy when describing things in archives: Manuscript<https://schema.org/Manuscript>, Poster<https://schema.org/Poster>, Drawing<https://schema.org/Drawing>, SheetMusic<https://schema.org/SheetMusic>, ShortStory<https://schema.org/ShortStory>, and Play<https://webschemas.org/Play>.

All these, new in version 3.5, terms are held in the 'pending' section of the vocabulary.  This is normal practice and over time they will move out of that section.  Being in pending does not mean that a term should not be used.  In practice, the more a term is used, the sooner it will move out of pending.

For more information on version 3.5, checkout the release notes: https://schema.org/docs/releases.html#v3.5


~Richard

Richard Wallis
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