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Re: A question on sXBL and XBL 2.0

From: Hervé Girod <herve.girod@club-internet.fr>
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 22:53:24 +0200
Message-ID: <450B12C4.9040604@club-internet.fr>
To: Dean Jackson <dino@w3.org>
Cc: Matthew Raymond <mattraymond@earthlink.net>, public-appformats@w3.org

I think that it would be better now to use XBL 2.0 in SVG than sXBL (XBL 
2.0 will obviously have a more wider audience, and the differences 
between them should not be too important). As of now, it seems to me 
that only Batik implements the current state of sXBL in its codebase.

However, I think it would be interesting to provide a rough draft about 
the differences between the latest sXBL working draft and XBL 2.0.  Anne 
van Kesteren already provided a synthesis of the differences in 2005 
here <http://annevankesteren.nl/2005/11/xbl>.

Hervé Girod

Dean Jackson wrote:
>
> On 10/09/2006, at 12:05 PM, Matthew Raymond wrote:
>
>>
>> Hervé Girod wrote:
>>> I just saw on W3C Web site that Web appformats WG has released a Last
>>> Call Working Draft for XBL 2.0, and I have some questions about the WG
>>> strategy about XBL 2.0 / sXBL relationship.
>>
>>    From the XBL 2.0 Last Call working draft:
>>
>> | Although they have had related histories, this specification is
>> | separate from the W3C's "sXBL" drafts, and is not compatible with
>> | them. (The two efforts use different namespaces, for one.)
>>
>>> - will the sXBL working draft be dropped in favor of the more general
>>> XBL 2.0 (there is a specific chapter on XBL 2.0 with SVG, and it seems,
>>> by looking at the table of contents, that the xSBL TOC is a subset of
>>> XBL 2. TOC too) ?
>>
>>    I've heard rumors that sXBL is dead. The working draft for sXBL is
>> over a year old. Considering that XBL 2.0 is now in Last Call, it's
>> probably a safe bet that the rumors are true.
>
> There certainly isn't any activity on sXBL at the moment.
> However, I don't think we can call it dead just yet. SXBL is
> still a chartered work item for the SVG group. As Anne suggested,
> maybe sXBL will be updated to be compatible with XBL 2.0, or just
> updated in general.
>
>>
>>> - is sXBL a subset of XBL 2.0, or is there some ([voluntary]) subtle
>>> differences between the two recomandations ?
>>
>>    Originally, sXBL was supposed to be a subset of XBL 2.0 for SVG, and
>> XBL 2.0 would have been based on sXBL once the specification reached
>> maturity. I think what happened is when sXBL stalled, they went ahead
>> with XBL 2.0 and broke compatibility with sXBL as it became increasingly
>> outdated.
>
> The XBL 2.0 that is currently in last call broke compatibility
> with sXBL in its first draft - it wasn't something that happened
> over time. Now that XBL 2.0 is a more mature specification than
> sXBL it will be interesting to see what path sXBL takes if it is
> published again. I don't think the world wants two binding
> specifications, but there might be some things in XBL 2.0 that
> make it unacceptable for standalone SVG implementations (for
> example).
>
> Dean
>
>
>
>
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