Welcome and Introductions

Thanks again for joining - few more interesting people  in the last couple
of weeks,  - we'd like to hear from everyone! Pls dont be shy and intro
yourself via this thread - This CG plans to become a WG within six months
or so and we need everybody's juice for us to be able to do so !

Below a quick summary of what we are discussing and where you input is
appreciated:
Feel free to add to the plan, pages should be editable.

1. some homework - please start collecting (in your notepads) a few terms
and key resources to add to our 'knowledge base' (KB), these will be
entered in our forms (see 2) and used as the basis for discussions,
activities and the formation of our vocabulary/ies  and concept maps -
After we finalize the forms/spreadsheets pls use the links on the CG home
page to populate the sheets

2. the KB/forms:  at the moment, on the home page, our KB proposed
structure consists of  two forms /spreadsheets to gather member inputs.
There is discussion to have a third form to gather non technical
terminology - possibly policy, governance, ethics. legal
I envisage these three resources (or more) will result being 'facets' of
our AI KR model somewhere along the lines. Does anybody have any
suggestions or comments, are these forms ok , can we start populating them?
(I apologise for wrecking initial entries, I had to split the first form,
unlink the test spreadsheets after some tweaks were made and some entries
were lost, please be patient)

3. As cognitive support for this work I have created a rather primitive
diagram, a proper collaborative mind map follows - thoughts? suggestions?
preferences? (something simple free and offering adequate functionality)
https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1iFRf72Y6oqziarvM-QZsqjVmNxKxtrjjRx5dY5JX60Y/edit?usp=sharing
You'll find this linked on the homepage together with a list of TOPICS that
will serve as
guide for our work - please take a look at the topics, I have gathered them
from new research and I am quite excited to find so many interesting words
and concepts that nee to be defined and represented in some way

4. I hope we can gather online for some kind of group call in September or
so, to start evaluating
what resources have been gathered  in the summer -  but anyone wishing  to
do a call before or anything else, feel free to do so, please invite
everyone via this list

5.  feel free to enter your thoughts about this CG in the survey (linked on
the home page) or jot them down for later discussion


anything else?

cheers

PDM


Based on other work, and anticipating future developments
> (Milton mentioned subgroups) I have created a page subgroups, and opened
> two additional pages as containers for future subgroups where some work may
> be needed (AI Ethics KR and Professional schemas).
> Feel free to edit, add, enter etc
> https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/subgroups/
>
>
>
>





On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 1:47 AM, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <
metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My name is Milton Ponson. I am a mathematician who is interested in
> knowledge representation in general and the science of knowledge.
>
> I have acquired multiple perspectives on knowledge and knowledge
> representation through my interests in genetics, quantum physics and the
> hard core theories behind string theory, quantum physics, relativity
> theory, grand unified theories and how we model knowledge and arrive at
> theories using formal mathematics.
>
> I have also bee active for the last twenty plus years in everything
> related to sustainable development, and thus also ethical issues like
> technology assessment and science assessment.
>
> And finally to get a non-western perspective have had a look at Buddhist
> logic and the formal thought systems of Madhyamaka Buddhist tradition in
> particular which describes verbally how we perceive our inner world and
> external world and the role therein of our often misleading sensory systems.
>
> Buddhism also teaches us some practical points of what makes us human and
> what constitutes the single most important external traits, being empathy
> and compassion.
>
> Humans are genetically hardwired as carbon based biological entities to do
> things in certain ways.
>
> The Blue Brain project (bluebrain.epfl.ch) aims to digitally reconstruct
> and simulate the brain.
>
> It is my starting point to draw an overview map of all interlinked
> disciplines which all have in common knowledge, cognition and several other
> concepts associated with reasoning, decision-making and acting and/or
> reacting upon (sensory) input, environmental paramaters and data.
>
> Hope to share this with you soon for further discussion and twaeking
>
> Milton Ponson
> GSM: +297 747 8280
> PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
> Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
> Project Paradigm: Bringing the ICT tools for sustainable development to
> all stakeholders worldwide through collaborative research on applied
> mathematics, advanced modeling, software and standards development
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:26 PM, carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Greetings:
>
>
> I am Carl Mattocks, for 30 + years I have taken a pragmatic approach in
> developing AI & KR capabilities. Thus I easily accepted Paola's suggestion
> to name the group AIKR.
> I suggested the ChatBot centric areas because I believe to have any chance
> of proven success, AIKR must be applied as in, have a national language /
> discipline specific context / domains / dimensions / vectors etc.
>
> I support the idea that  (1) the vocabulary should include KR terms as
> well as AI terms; (2)  knowledge is best stewarded as a property of a
> community-of-practice; (3) AIKR should be published in a compendium (4)
> which is likely to have some kind of blockchain &  AIKR miners.
>
>
> As reference material I start with links to UIMA work .. so we can take
> advantage of the NLP oriented capabilities.
>
> cheers
>
> Carl Mattocks
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/carlmattocks carlmattocks@gmail.com
>
> Reference:
> A number of NLP research institutes  based their software development
> efforts on UIMA specifications to adhere to emerging standards.
> http://www.lrec-conf.org/proceedings/lrec2008/workshops/W16_
> Proceedings.pdf
>
> UIMA, the Unstructured Information Management Architecture, is an
> open-platform middle-ware for dealing with unstructured information (text,
> speech, audio, video data), originally launched by IBM.
> Apache Software Foundation has a project for developing UIMA-based
> software https://uima.apache.org/d/uimaj-2.6.0/tutorials_and_users_
> guides.html.
>  Organization for the Advancement of Structured Information Standards
> (OASIS) hosted a Technical
> Committee to standardize the UIMA specification.https://www.oasi
> s-open.org/committees/download.php/27025/UIMA_Specification_Draft_v1.doc
>  A number of NLP research institutes  based their software development
> efforts on UIMA specifications to adhere to emerging standards.
> http://www.lrec-conf.org/proceedings/lrec2008/workshops/W16_
> Proceedings.pdf
>
>
> It was a pleasure to clarify
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 5:45 AM, Chris Harding <chris@lacibus.net> wrote:
>
> It was the "Knowledge Representation" aspect that attracted me to join the
> group.
>
> AI appears to be about creating computer systems that are like people.
> AIKR is partly about the internal design of such computer systems, but it
> is also about about communication between them and about communication
> between them and people. The communication aspect is to my mind more
> important than internal design.
>
> My ideas on this are not based on research, but are derived from many
> years of experience of participating in and managing groups of people
> developing standards - at least some of which incorporate knowledge. They
> are not fully formed, or well expressed, and I hope that through this group
> I will be able to connect them with academic and commercial research and
> contribute to a group conensus.
>
> The list of proposed outcomes at https://www.w3.org/community/a ikr/
> <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/> looks good, and I suggest starting
> with the list of resources and the natural language vocabulary. I propose
> that the vocabulary should include KR terms as well as AI terms. (This may
> have been intended, but is not explicit.)
>
>
> Paola Di Maio wrote:
>
> Thank you everyone who introduced themselves, and others please do so in
> your own time.
>
> What motivated the formation of this group initially is a need to keep up
> with the extremely fast moving pace of AI progress - even when writing a
> simple research paper or teaching a basic class like 'Introduction to
> Machine Learning' these days it is necessary to keep an eye out for new
> approaches and contexts. There is a lot happening. Things are changing by
> the minute.
> I don't understand the words people use anymore. Everyday I need to start
> a new learning curve. What were once  fairly clear cut fields of study seem
> to have shifted (or is it my consciosness expanding?) There seems to be new
> concepts coming up all the time.  Cognitive ability is linked to knowledge
> representation, both for humans and machines, and I thought maybe we can
> try to grab some of this rapidly developing AI knowledge by creating some
> KR tabs to help us figure things out. Even KR is moving but at a less fast
> pace.
>
> So I started digesting words and concepts and hope that the cognitive load
> is going to become more bearable. Then realised there is much to be done in
> this space, and since the web is now part of us in more than one way, our
> interface, our constantly updated database, W3C is open to new ideas, why
> not make a CG.
>
> I am so glad to have so many clever and experienced people on the list.
> Its easy to turn sun open informal efforts into a rave party, get
> distracted  with interesting discussions, since we all have our own agendas
> and interesting backgrounds and a lot to tell.
>
> Our challenge is to keep the focus, so I beg everyone please lets put down
> explicitly (write in our web pages) some stuff we want doing (goals,
> deliverables whatever) and let's stick to it diligently and systematically.
>
> Please share with the group - on separate threads perhaps - what you think
> we should try to achieve, and how?
> What motivates you to join this group? What would like to contribute, and
> what can the group do for you?
>
> I  started a few pages with initial thoughts, they should editable
> https://www.w3.org/community/a ikr/welcome/
> <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/welcome/>
>
> On a housekeeping note, we may benefit from a co-chair if anyone would
> like to volunteer
> (no particular commitment required)  I hope this group will become a WG as
> soon as we have enough juice, and produce a lot of nice deliverables, and
> after achieving some of the goals I have initially set (maye publish one or
> two reports, or a journal special issue or something) then I ll be ready to
> pass on the torch to the next chair.
>
> Since it's the summer, I suggest we may relax and ponder on the tasks
> already set out and contribute some thinking and some items (start
> submitting resources, edit the TO DO  list a bit,  etc) and postpone our
> first virtual meeting until September.  but if someone/anyone is inclined
> to call out a virtual meeting before the end of the summer please feel free
> to do so.
>
> I am not big with online meetings, prefer to exchange via emails, but if
> virtual meetings become productive I ll make the effort.
>
> Personally I am now busy reading  new research - tons and tons of stuff -
> and simply
> understanding what it all means. I ll try to pin down a few concept/terms
> definition and submit them to our resource depository and will ping the
> list when I need some input on what I am doing
> For now these pages are still drafts, but when everyone has had the
> opportunity to review
> them, we can make the firm and start actioning them, set dates etc
>
> Please do the same!
>
> Look forward to learn more about what everybody is doing and how can this
> community
> help! Questions?
>
> Thanks again for joining
>
> PDM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dr Paola Di Maio
> Center For Technology Ethics
> ISTCS.org
> *A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio>*
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 5:04 PM, Alberto Nogales Moyano <
> alberto.nogales@ceiec.es> wrote:
>
> Dear all
> thanks for creating this group.
> My name is Alberto Nogales, I am a computer scientist and have a PhD from
> University of Alcalá (Spain) related with Social Network Analysis of the
> Web of Linked Data in order to improve data retrieval strategies. During
> the last years I have also worked in Technical University in Vienna,
> Technical University in Tallinn and University of Málaga. Actually, I work
> as a researcher and lecturer in Universidad Francisco de Vitoria (also in
> Spain). The head of my lab has a huge background in neural networks, so we
> have started to apply Deep Learning models to some issues like automatic
> classification of Linked Data sources or data retrieval strategies by
> applying learning to rank. More information about my lab here:
> http://www.ceiec.es/en/
>
>
> Alberto Nogales Moyano
> PostDoctoral researcher and Lecturer
> CEIEC (Francisco de Vitoria University)
> https://www.researchgate.net/p rofile/Alberto_Nogales
> <https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alberto_Nogales>
> alberto.nogales@ceiec.es
>
>
>
> On 06 Jul 2018, at 12:34, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> seminal article
> <https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1207/s15516709cog0101_2>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Chris
> ++++
>
> Chief Executive, Lacibus <https://lacibus.net/> Ltd
> chris@lacibus.net
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