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Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem

From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 16:55:23 +1000
Cc: "William Chan (ι™ˆζ™Ίζ˜Œ)" <willchan@chromium.org>, HTTP Working Group <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
Message-Id: <F19D7D32-4264-423A-8B9B-F6F9036ACFEE@mnot.net>
To: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
PHK - 

I appreciate you're concerned about the CONTINUATION issue, but using it to derail other discussions isn't appropriate. 

Also, emotive language like "bogus misfeatures" and "blackmail" doesn't help make decisions; it's just a distraction. Please refrain.


On 1 Jul 2014, at 4:23 pm, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> wrote:

> In message <CAA4WUYgqE02o9jftm1ERJGsKBqau9CRAJ4=JF0r3x-11gh5ZXQ@mail.gmail.com>, =?UTF-8?B?V2lsbGlhbSBDaGF
> uICjpmYjmmbrmmIwp?= writes:
>> This has come up in a number of different discussions over time, and I
>> thought it'd be nice to gather a list of things that it'd be useful if
>> major implementations did in order to keep the ecosystem healthy.
> The best way to "keep the ecosystem healthy" is to write a good and
> simple standard without bogus misfeatures like CONTINUATION.
>> * Make sure to use features that aren't necessarily required, in order to
>> make sure they remain viable. For example:
>> - If we think servers need to at least be able to support reading
>> continuation frames (if not necessarily use them themselves), then clients
>> should make sure to exercise this code path some part of the time.
> You have heard a rather large number of intermediaries say clearly that
> they will not implement CONTINUATION, trying to force them to using this
> sort of "blackmail" ain't gonna make you and your browser any friends.
> -- 
> Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
> phk@FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
> FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe    
> Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.

Mark Nottingham   https://www.mnot.net/
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