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Re: New Version Notification for draft-tbray-http-legally-restricted-status-01.txt

From: James M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:21:27 -0700
Message-ID: <CABP7RbcuR7XZqK1iU6fdFEvnjjBM0gbM-Vj8U7L870mwD_-oJw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com>
Cc: ietf-http-wg@w3.org
+1 definitely better overall.

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> wrote:
> Since MNot has put this on the agenda, I thought I should revise one more
> time.  There’s one big change and a bunch of little ones.
>
> Big: I went and talked to some subject-matter experts at Google who are paid
> to think about this sort of policy stuff, and some others who might have to
> implement it.  I got strong advice that the draft should not talk about
> “legal restrictions” because this might carry an implication that the party
> emitting the 451 acknowledges that this is in fact a “restriction”.  In
> fact, many parties get legal demands that they think might well be bogus but
> choose not to go to court for reasons of policy or cost; so they’d like to
> avoid implying that they acknowledge a “restriction”.  I was advised that it
> was perfectly OK to report that legal “demands” had been made, and
> eventually became convinced that this was more accurate. The Republican
> Guards call up and demand that you take down some links, and you think they
> might be full of crap, but they’re the Guards, so you can accurately report
> that the *demand* was made.
>
> So most of the changes are a slight re-spin to talk about demands or
> obstacles rather than restrictions.
>
> Smaller:
> - Typos fixed
> - Changed to People’s Front of Judea for better Pythonicity
> - Changed reference to Roman law in response to expert advice.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From:  <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
> Date: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 4:16 PM
> Subject: New Version Notification for
> draft-tbray-http-legally-restricted-status-01.txt
> To: tbray@textuality.com
>
>
>
> A new version of I-D, draft-tbray-http-legally-restricted-status-01.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Tim Bray and posted to the
> IETF repository.
>
> Filename:        draft-tbray-http-legally-restricted-status
> Revision:        01
> Title:           A New HTTP Status Code to Report Legal Obstacles
> Creation date:   2012-07-10
> WG ID:           Individual Submission
> Number of pages: 5
> URL:
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-tbray-http-legally-restricted-status-01.txt
> Status:
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tbray-http-legally-restricted-status
> Htmlized:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-tbray-http-legally-restricted-status-01
> Diff:
> http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-tbray-http-legally-restricted-status-01
>
> Abstract:
>    This document specifies an additional Hypertext Transfer Protocol
>    (HTTP) status code for use when resource access is denied due to
>    legal demands.
>
>
>
>
> The IETF Secretariat
Received on Wednesday, 11 July 2012 04:22:15 GMT

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